<p>“Michigan ain’t that easy to get into either. They’re significantly more idiosyncratic about how they admit people, often tending to prefer not to admit jerks. Thus, I wouldn’t be so confident if I were you.”</p>
<p>If law schools tend to look mainly at GPA and LSAT, why would the University of Michigan Law School care if jakebosco is a jerk?</p>
<p>If jakebosco had everything Michigan was looking for (high GPA and LSAT for US News Rankings) why would his jerkiness matter. </p>
<p>Also, how did you come up with this notion?</p>
<p>The key words in your post are “tend to look.” That is a lot of wiggle room. That means that law schools can give a lot of weight to LSAT and GPA, yet still decide to reject the application if the applicant is a jerk or not.</p>
<p>How do I know Michigan does this? Because I know Dean Zearfoss. And if you read her blog enough</p>
<p>You’ll get a sense of what I’m talking about.</p>
<p>Even if the applicant is admitted on paper, Dean Zearfoss has been known quietly to pull aside jerky admits during admitted student weekends and to tell the, essentially, that they wouldn’t belong at the school. While that isn’t the equivalent of getting your offer rescinded, it’s mighty frightening when the dean of admissions tells you to your face that you should go somewhere else.</p>
<p>This is obviously a strawman, indicating your patent inability to comprehend English, I suppose. No. Admitted students day is a day to discover whether a school is a good fit for you. Usually when you attend social events, you should be behaving well. You don’t need to be perfect, but you also can’t be a complete misfit. I guess your parents never taught you this. </p>
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<p>I wouldn’t take it to that extreme. In terms of how important numbers are at Michigan, compared to non-quantiative factors, I’d put Michigan somewhere between NYU and YLS/SLS/Boalt.</p>
<p>Yep. Though to be clear, the person really was a jerk. He had done some really stupid things, and pretty much the whole room was quite disgusted by his behavior. Nobody is asking you to be perfect. But at the same time, don’t do anything stupid. For example, racist commentary will not fly. If you really think a law school is asking you too much in expecting you not to do that, you need to get your head examined (I realize the irony of saying this just a week after the whole Stephanie Grace/HLS incident occurred).</p>
<p>“Ohhh… how delightfully pedestrian!”
I agree. I thought the generalization was slightly funny.</p>
<p>“This is obviously a strawman”
I agree with this as well but I asked you those questions because I was kinda curious how you knew that. A person can fit in while in one setting but be out of place in another. Jerk is a matter of opinion. </p>
<p>“Yep. Though to be clear, the person really was a jerk. He had done some really stupid things, and pretty much the whole room was quite disgusted by his behavior.”
I think *<strong><em>ing someone off online is slightly different than *</em></strong>ing off an entire room of prospective Michigan Law School students. </p>
<p>How do you figure I’m a misfit? You don’t know me. I don’t think I would speak to you in the same manner if I was talking to you face to face. I would be more respectful.</p>
Pedestrian: Lacking inspiration or excitement; dull. So you agree it was that, yet that it was “slightly funny?”</p>
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<p>1) I wasn’t calling you a misfit. In this entire conversation, I didn’t refer to you once.
2) I’d learn to read next time, so you don’t make the same error again.
3) I am tickled that you demand more respect, yet you’ve deployed strawman and various other rude conversational tactics to get a rather terrible point across. I realize this is of no logical significance, but it is very ironic.
4) I don’t need to respect you. I’m here to provide help. If you don’t want it, you’re free not to take it. If you want to disagree, you’re more than welcome to if you can provide evidence. If you have difficulty with my tone, welcome to life. And don’t even try to tell me to be more respectful, as if you have inkling what that is. I realize you 4.0 GPA at Arizona may make you feel entitled to feel like you’re intelligent and that you can be argumentative toward people, but a) your GPA is nothing, b) there are thousands, upon thousands of more people more intelligent than you, and c) you have a long way to go before you reach that point. In the meanwhile, get over yourself, tuck your tail between your legs, and walk away. Focus on your work and on being a good person, and then maybe one day you can come back here, hold your head up high, and ask for some respect. </p>
<p>God, I feel like I’m arguing with a freshman who just learned how to use a big word. I’m done here.</p>
<p>Big state universities like PSU and UF may be known for their partying but they are still not a joke in the academic departments. </p>
<p>Freshman admissions stats are a far better indicator of curriculum rigor than how often their students party. Look at it this way: Duke is a top school with major NCAA college sports. Just because many Duke students attend Duke sporting events (which is time away from studying) does that mean it is less rigorous than any school that has less support for their NCAA teams? To say that everyone at a big state school parties every week is an enormous generality. Large state schools are known for their wide range of students simply because they are so big. You will likely find many who stay in and study on weekends at big state schools in addition to the ones that party all the time. </p>
<p>I’m also wondering why you don’t consider Michigan “rigorous” when you go to such lengths to emphasize the competition at your own school, despite Michigan likely having more prestige and higher incoming freshman statistics than your school.</p>
<p>Sorry Flowerhead. It is ridiculous to argue about if they let jerks into University of Michigan LS. I appreciate the advice everyone gives on this site.</p>