<p>I probably don’t know his income, and neither does anyone on CC. But I was pointing out that since he never leaned towards the idea despite many ppl giving him the option to (eg. OP wondered about getting brother instead), it could be that they may not have as plenty of money as may be assumed by many. What if he is going to Columbia under scholarship(need)? or taking out loans for UG and Med? I get that med school is not the same as ug, but that doesn’t mean that he cannot handle the transition and still be able to stay home. He has already stayed at home and commuted (assuming) for the entirety of uni years. I’m sure that plenty of nights may be spent doing rounds w/ doctors and studying outside, but that is why I recommended a relative/sibling to help out in the case. I hope you have visited old ppl facilities and are replying on the basis of what you have seen and experienced. I will say that even the rich out there in their retirement homes worry about the money spent every year in their respective facilities when they have saved so much their entire lives. Most of these ppl that I know are half dependent on their children to provide the money that they need to remain in such facilities. Thus, speaking from experience, I am not recommending the OP to burden himself and his parents with debt, but rather to seek a cheap option by relying on people they know and are close to them. OP can practically go anywhere if his sibling or other person is able to take on the task of caring for the parents.</p>
<p>Oh and let us note that if OP does happen to put parents in such a facility…what is the gaurantee that they will be able to live there for the majority of their old age? PPl in assisted living facilities are usually those that are in far worse conditions to actually live in a normal home condition (alziehmer’s, ppl with broken ribs, etc). It would be wise for OP and parents to save up till that time comes (80+) when even minor tasks can lead to fractures or that a timely schedule for medication becomes essential enough that such an environment becomes crucial in allowing the parents and the children to relax a bit in terms of both group’s health and well being.</p>
<p>^I see what you’re saying. Thanks for the explanation.</p>
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And you’re coming here to ask anonymous strangers about med school instead of the premed advisor at school? Something smells a little fishy to me…</p>
<p>What happened to the topic of this thread…</p>
<p>mikemac, maybe he wanted a second opinion.</p>
<p>rymd lol I agree, but part of his problem lies with being close to his parents. He should definitely aim for some far out of state med schools too to improve his chances. His list is too short as many have pointed out.</p>
<p>Person knows his family situation better than any outsider, including us, here. There are some busy people at Med. Schools, including those with kids. Family is always priority, but everybody manage to the best of thier ability.</p>
<p>Totally off topic, but how in the world does mom2collegekids have 28,000 posts? Most posts I’ve ever seen by any person on any forum ever lol. Does she get paid or just spends all her time on here?</p>
<p>the poster is only ~20 years of age. the parents couldn’t be any older than late 50’s/early 60’s at most.</p>
<p>regarding sending parents to “assisted living facilities,” i dont think money is an issue for this person. i would never send my parents to one of these nursing homes because i am not a horrible person and i know of the things that happen in those homes. i’ve noticed a lot of white people do this to their parents, in most non-white cultures you take care of your parents even at old age and don’t shove them into nursing homes, it’s the least you could do after they raised/took care of you for years</p>
<p>@Ivan: My oncologist says the answer is NOt AT ALL. She went to tiny Union College-but she was able to get a great deal of special attention, recommendations, internships and so on. She says you are actually at a disadvantage at the HYP, because of lack of mentorship etc. My neighbor is in med school-he went to tiny Colby and told me that the ones coming from Penn.,etc. are far behind the curve. My daughter wants to be pre-med and she wondered the same thing.</p>
<p>Olipond,
What does that mean that Ivy League Schools “are far behind the curve”? Please explain. Thanks~</p>
<p>Well, you do get a ‘bump’ on your undergrad and choice of major, but for many schools, the initial screening is more or less automated, and a 3.4 cumulative GPA might put you in the ‘second-tier’, and don’t forget, both Cum GPA and SciGPA are evaluated - I’ll assume your science GPA is yet lower. </p>
<p>Not to discourage you, your stats will definitely get you in somewhere, but I’ll echo what everyone else is saying, apply to more schools - iirc, the average applicant needs to apply to 11 schools to gain admission.</p>
<p>Just based on MSAR data, the schools you’ve picked:</p>
<ul>
<li>Columbia - reach</li>
<li>NYU - reach</li>
<li>Cornell - Long shot </li>
<li>SUNY Downstate (state university) - good chance, but GPA is below average</li>
<li>Albert Einstein - On target - decent chance</li>
<li>Mount Sinai - reach</li>
</ul>
<p>Pretty much all of the other New York schools you have a very strong chance (Albany, Upstate, etc), plus UMDNJ (if you’re a NJ resident), Jefferson, Drexel, Temple (Philly).</p>
<p>Keep in mind - “on-target” means your stats are on-target, but the admissions rates are still often less than 10% - that’s why you need to apply to lots of schools. </p>
<p>When are you applying? It’s pretty much “too late” to start applying for next Fall if you haven’t already submitted your AMCAS.</p>
<p>If you’re applying next year, then I’d suggest you work on the loose ends in your AMCAS - like try to get your research published, or add more hours (if that’s lacking), and make sure you have a lot of shadowing hours / clinical hours, I’d say a minimum of 100 hours - the value of “shadowing” might be debated by a lot of students, but not by admissions counselors.</p>
<p>Yes olipond, please do. The only ivy league kids behind the curve in my class are the ones who were not pre-meds but made career switches after college.</p>
<p>OP, how about New York Medical?
It may be in Westchester County, not Manhattan but it could still be a good choice, given your need to be close to the city.</p>
<p>I am pretty sure they do!</p>
<p>Olipond,
"She went to tiny Union College-but she was able to get a great deal of special attention, recommendations, internships and so on. She says you are actually at a disadvantage at the HYP, because of lack of mentorship etc. My neighbor is in med school-he went to tiny Colby and told me that the ones coming from Penn.,etc. are far behind the curve. My daughter wants to be pre-med and she wondered the same thing. "</p>
<p>-My D. is in great Med. School. Her class is filled with kids and older people from Ivy’s and other elite schools (Berkley is overcrowded all others). D. went to state public, had awesome experiences there. Pre-med committee was helpful beyond expectations, everything was done before most other applicants (acording to posts on CC), working with her at the very personal level and helping all the way thru her acceptances. She loved her campus and went back several times even after starting at Med. School.<br>
The most important is student/UG match and great pre-med advisory, the rest is irrelevant.</p>
<p>To paraphrase my neighbor, and my doctor (!)-Ivy’s do not offer a great deal of mentoring or individual attention, or, for that matter specifically developed individual tailoring to a student’s needs. My neighbor, specifically, says that those in his class from the Ivy’s (with the possible exception of Cornell) lack a great deal of the basic baseline material and are mid to bottom of the class. Perhaps it is wonderful to be able to study esoteric fields, but I’m not sure it translates well to the nuts and bolts of medical school. I’m not putting down Ivy education, and certainly, down the line these people will be able to ‘think outside of the box’-but I do not think it is any sort of advantage to admission to medical school.</p>
<p>Do you mind sharing what school your neighbor is at? The majority of my class (top 20 school) is from the ivies and most of us are not struggling. I will agree that the pre-med office at Brown is not stellar as an advisory group, but there are plenty of professors that you can easily reach out to.</p>
<p>Yeah, I haven’t really noticed a lot of academic separation in my class in terms of Ivy vs non Ivy (about 50% are from Ivies), but I imagine that the Ivy students definitely don’t accumulate in the bottom quartile.</p>