Do they interview?

[mikey192]

<p>I couldn't really find anything on the website but I was wondering if they did optional interviews or something. I'm out of state and I just feel like that is something that could help improve my chances of getting in. I'm kind of assuming they probably don't do interviews, though.....just wondering!</p>

[ncmentor]

<p>No official interviews, and if your from OOS and not a Very Top Student you have no chance of getting in… You can check out why by doing a search here on CC.</p>

[PBrad1792]

<p>To give you an idea for what you should be shooting for: an OOS student should have a 1400+ CR/M score to have a good chance of getting in. People get in with 1300s, but to be safe 1400+ is best. Have a high weighted GPA, the average admitted student GPA was 4.47, and this was brought down by instaters such as myself.</p>

[ncmentor]

<p>^ TonyBallioni</p>

<p>I think it’s even harder than you think because your forgetting to include OOS recruited athletes, Internationals, Legacy and other hooked up students. That leaves very few spaces for regular OOS students.</p>

<p>mikey192 - UNC is 80% instate by law, so that only leaves 20% for all OOS and internationals.</p>

[heyitslauriebeth]

<p>recruited athletes are included with the in state numbers.</p>

[eadad]

<p>Actually 82% in state by law and the UNC legislature has either just repealed or is about to repeal the loophole that allowed those OOS students on full scholarships (recruited athletes, Moreheads, Robertsons etc) to be counted as in state so it effectively has eliminated or will eliminate somewhere between 150-200 spots for “regular” applicants.</p>

<p>OOS admission will be much tougher with this loophole eliminated.</p>

<p>From the News and Observer</p>

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<p>With a state budget still reeling from the recession, North Carolina lawmakers at long last pulled a gift from beneath the tree of university booster clubs that never should have been offered in the first place. Scholarship athletes from out of state no longer will be classified as in-state for tuition purposes, which they were for five years thanks primarily to the lobbying heft of UNC-Chapel Hill boosters.</p>

<p>The break saved the booster clubs about $9 million, which means it cost taxpayers that much. And it made the university system in effect sanction a lie: Students from out of state are not in fact in-state students. The wealthy Rams Club in Chapel Hill had friends on Jones Street, including former state Sen. Tony Rand of Fayetteville, their chief advocate. And UNC-CH also has a political action committee that contributes to key lawmakers friendly to their aims.</p>

<p>This was a bad idea from the start, although those who pushed it tried to cover it in a cloak of virtue by also including in the tuition break full scholarship students with prestigious academic scholarships. The foundations that sponsor them will continue to get the break under a deal hammered out during state budget negotiations. They argue that they will be able to bring more top-notch students to campuses as a result, and with more out-of-state students and foreign students, the educational experience for in-state students will be enhanced.</p>

<p>Yes, some smaller schools will have to scramble if they want to continue bringing in as many out-of-state athletes. But the poor-mouthing on behalf of the well-heeled Rams and the Wolfpack Club of N.C. State is ridiculous. Their members will simply have to cover the difference, and they’re perfectly capable of doing so. Considering the millions of dollars lavished on improvements to stadiums and the millions paid to coaches these days, to stick the taxpayers with a bigger tab is and always was unfair.</p>

<p>There is little good news in the budget this year, but the lean times have at least forced the elimination of this ill-advised and, for taxpayers, insulting policy.

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<p>This was obviously written by a dook fan ;)</p>

[blue_box]

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OOS admission will be much tougher with this loophole eliminated.

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<p>So I just scraped through. x_x</p>

[smbsmom]

<p>eadad, what’s the date on that N & O article? Thanks.</p>

[Chipmoney]

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Actually 82% in state by law and the UNC legislature has either just repealed or is about to repeal the loophole that allowed those OOS students on full scholarships (recruited athletes, Moreheads, Robertsons etc) to be counted as in state so it effectively has eliminated or will eliminate somewhere between 150-200 spots for “regular” applicants.

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<p>They kept the in-state rate for Morehead and Robertson scholarships.</p>

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Also under the new budget, out-of-state athletes no longer will benefit from a 5-year-old exemption from the higher nonresident tuition rates; for those whose college costs are paid with athletic scholarships, more money will have to come from booster clubs and other private sources.</p>

<p>The exemption was preserved for those on academic scholarships, allowing the Morehead-Cain and Robertson Scholarship programs to continue to compete nationally for top scholars. Nine of the past 10 Rhodes Scholarship winners from UNC were Morehead-Cain scholars from outside North Carolina.

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<p>[UNC</a> General Alumni Association :: Tuition Goes Up $750 as UNC Faces State Cuts](<a href=“Carolina Alumni”>http://www.alumni.unc.edu/article.aspx?sid=7719)</p>

[eadad]

<p>chipmoney</p>

<p>Glad they kept the exemption for those on academic scholarships which will also impact those named Carolina and Davie Scholars as well as the Moreheads and Robertsons…</p>

<p>Thanks for that additional info; I had been sent the other N&O article excerpts from a Tar Heel football fan in a discussion relating to athletics only and that piece was obviously missing from the article.</p>

<p>smbsmom</p>

<p>Sorry…I just got excepts not the whole article so I can’t tell you the date.</p>

[heyitslauriebeth]

<p>July 1st. It’s an editorial, not an article, so it’s largely opinion based (obviously), but here’s the original: [Tuition</a> break down - Editorials - NewsObserver.com](<a href=“http://www.newsobserver.com/2010/07/01/559800/tuition-break-down.html#storylink=misearch]Tuition”>http://www.newsobserver.com/2010/07/01/559800/tuition-break-down.html#storylink=misearch)</p>

[mikey192]

<p>OK they don’t do interviews, jeez. Thanks everyone for the encouraging words!!!</p>

[ncmentor]

<p>LOL - Sorry mikey192,</p>

<p>Lots of people just see the overall GPA/SAT comparison for UNC and don’t know how much more it takes to get in OOS. If you already knew, sorry but because this is a public forum and we wanted to help a lot of other students from running head first into a brick wall. If you didn’t know, your welcome too…</p>

[mikey192]

<p>It’s fine, I know about it. I’ve just had people in my life constantly tell me I’m not going to get accepted here, so it’s just frustrating to hear it over and over.</p>

[ArtemisDea]

<p>^ Look, you asked a question here, on College Confidential, instead of taking three minutes to look it up yourself on the UNC website. So don’t complain about the answers you get here.</p>

[fishymom]

<p>You guys are not presenting your school in a very favorable light by being so condescending. Fortunately the students my daughter and I met when we visited were much more gracious and genuinely enthusiastic about answering all our questions about the school (even ones we could have found ourselves in three minutes on the website).</p>

[jambaby]

<p>I think people probably could have worded things better and not been so harsh about the OOS thing, but it is what it is… I know OOS students get tired of being told they have no chance (although I have no idea what the OP’s stats are, he could have a very good chance), just like everybody on CC gets tired of answering the same questions over and over. fishymom, I’m glad you had a good visit!</p>

[vstewart09]

<p>Mikey, again, no, they don’t do interviews. Additionally, don’t let numbers and stats deter you. I definitely DID NOT have the SAT/ACT scores everyone assures you that you must have to get into this place. I had the GPA and ranking, sure, but those are subject to inflation so I don’t ever think it weighs as heavily as other numbers. But you know what? I put some thought into my essays and short responses and got in. Every case is different and at the end of the day no one knows what will come out of Jackson Hall except the fine people inside. So best of luck to you, bro.</p>

[ncmentor]

<p>^ fishymom</p>

<p>I’m not a student so please don’t take any perceived or (misperceived) condescending attitude as representative of a UNC student. </p>

<p>It would be great if UNC GPA/SAT stats were published as in-state / OOS, so potential students knew the magnitude of the challenge that faces them. </p>

<p>Perhaps the one other piece of advice I would give to mikey192, and every other applicant at every other school is that if you have one dream school - Always Apply. Write a great essay and present yourself… Because at the end of the day paying a application fee is a small price to pay for knowing for sure one way or another if you could have attended your dream school… And you won’t look back in 15 years and wonder what might have happened…</p>

[blue_box]

<p>My GPA/ranking was terrible. Worse than the average in-state UNC student, and I got in. I think my application sort of slipped through the cracks or something. Its tough, yes, but not impossible, and definitely worth a try. Essays can make or break an application too.</p>