<p>Wait, you could... see through the walls? Or something? You mentioned a hospital -- what was the reason for your visit and what medications were you on at the time? but then you qualify the supervision with your inability to hear what was going on outside? Is it some form of hyperacusis then or something?</p>
<p>It's useful as evidence (which cannot be evaluated metaphysically anyway) only if it can be repeated -- such predictions are not that hard to make if we have a sufficiently large sampling (like, right now I can predict that my brother is rummaging through the fridge and eating raspberries, and if I can make this prediction enough times I might even be able to confirm it eventually, but this would have nothing to do with my "clairvoyance" or anything of that sort at all); plus, in a weakened state, you might have considered a basic prediction to be some sort of bona fide manifestation of ESP, and been incapable of seeing it statistically... I'm really confused as to what's going on, lol, exactly...</p>
<p>edit:Oh, and how exactly did you verify that your, err, visions (things you heard?) were accurate?</p>
<p>^ I had double-pneumonia and my lungs filled with fluid causing me to flat-line. I was "dead" for a little less than a minute. In that time, I remember being outside of my body and being with my grandmother. Together we walked through the halls of the hospital and she showed me my family and the people who were there who cared for me. Then she told me it wasn't my time and then I "woke up", "came back to life", whatever you want to call it. </p>
<p>I'm sure I was on drugs, I had pneumonia. I then correctly named all the people who were in the hospital waiting for me (that I had no way of knowing were there), most of what they were wearing, including my grandparents and uncle who had flown into state without telling anybody. My parents didn't know they were there at the time either because they had not left the room. </p>
<p>All of these people were in the downstairs lobby and I was on the 7th floor. </p>
<p>Personally, I believe we have a spirit and a soul. Your soul cannot detect things but it retains certain personality traits and some fragments of your life and is passed from body to body (I believe in reincarnation). I believe your spirit is the spiritual presence of yourself and I believe after death that your spirit follows those you loved in life and other descendants and watches over them. </p>
<p>I am not here to convince anybody, I just take offense when some people assume that all people with "out-of-body experiences" are people who have something to gain or are crackpots</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing your experience.
Eckhart Tolle writes some great books. What is the consciousness behind our thoughts? If we ask "what will my next thought be?" and stay still and wait for the next thought to pop up, what is that space, or conscious awareness, between our thoughts?
Some say that is the access to the soul.</p>
<p>I mean, that's an interesting story (and I think you and your mom have had numerous experiences like that?) and I can't think of any plausible explanation, but I believe that there IS one. I mean, to start with: like Moodrets says, it's not entirely unlikely that a given prediction that is congruous with normal events would come true.</p>
<p>^ No actually that was a first and only experience like that. I have had other "psychic" experiences, but nothing like that.</p>
<p>And it was verified when all the people I named were there and the ones whose clothes I described were accurate. </p>
<p>I would be able to find holes in the story too, but I have no way of explaining how I knew about my grandparents and uncle. They live in California and told nobody that they were coming. They normally wouldn't, seeing as they didn't come when I was born nor when I was hospitalized the first time. They only knew where I was because I sent them a card from the hospital for Christmas. </p>
<p>So "statistically" or "predictably" I could have probably gotten about half of the people there, but definitely not those three people.</p>
<p>^ What do you mean more "open-minded" to it? Are you saying they like to believe they had a supernatural experience even though they're not even sure whether they ever had one?...</p>
<p>^ Not necessarily. I am saying others have had supernatural experiences but rationalize them with logical explanations even if one does not exist.</p>
<p>Jung a psychiatrist developed the idea of the three stages of mind.
1. The conscious the most accessible stage available.
2. The subconscious things that dont have enough "importance" to reach the conscious level.
3. The mass subconscious this is like a general subconscious passed down through the ages and this involves things like archetypes, generally held images of gods, danger, and such.</p>
<p>Well my point is if Jung's theory is correct then what is to stop the mass subconscious mixing with subconscious. Thus things like walking down the hall and what you are wearing "falls out of" the conscious and then those thoughts merges with mass subconscious. The mass subconscious ,being shared by everyone, sends the info to everyone. The person in a traumatic state already is hardly in a situation to access the conscious so they drop back into the conscious. </p>
<p>This could explain an out of body experience if you believe in Jung's theory that is.
Fell free to shoot me down.</p>
<p>Well my point is if Jung's theory is correct then what is to stop the mass subconscious mixing with subconscious. Thus things like walking down the hall and what you are wearing "falls out of" the conscious and then those thoughts merges with mass subconscious. The mass subconscious ,being shared by everyone, sends the info to everyone. The person in a traumatic state already is hardly in a situation to access the conscious so they drop back into the conscious.</p>
<p>This could explain an out of body experience if you believe in Jung's theory that is.
Fell free to shoot me down.
"Mass subconscious" is BS. Different cultures come to the same conclusions because of inter-culture communication, and on the rare occasions that they end up displaying the same patterns independently, it's due to human nature, which can almost always be reduced to evolutionary psychology.</p>
<p>yes we do have souls, because mine's been torn apart by the most dismal day ever... no, it was mainly assasinated by a really hard AP calc test and a frustrating grade in AP lit which never seems to change no matter what i do... </p>
<p>man, if i could just leave my body right now, my soul would go crawl under a rock and hide from school and finals.</p>
<p>for the people saying they believe in strictly science and that souls dont exist, isn't that contradicting? your claiming that you know something to be true that can never be proven nor disproven, so if you were a true believer in all things science or w/e then shouldn't you believe in the possibility of a soul?</p>