<p>From my experience, girls love nice guys, but not passively nice... there is a huge difference between a nice guy (i.e. says please and thank you, is polite when speaking/spoken to), and a passively nice guy (i.e. holds the door open for everybody and anybody--even if they are 100 yards away still, is indecisive on virtually everything--like how he should comb his hair, listens to everything the girl complains about without responding with any sort of stance or opinion, etc.).</p>
<p>You see, pushovers are weak, and unattractive to girls... girls are pushovers, they don't want a guy to be. But nice/respectful guys, who are also confident, stand up for themselves, and able to make decisions are attractive.</p>
<p>Outlaw Biker -- The prototype of everything women say they don't want but really do. And you will know him by his forearm tattoo, 'street smarts,' weed connection, domestic violence convictions, and the fact that the women you are an intellectual whore to are always complaining about him to you before they go off to ***** him, or leave you in a bar to go home with him.</p>
<p>hahahhaha Jags- I find the "men's rating system" excruciatingly funny. If that's not enough proof that women are superior to men in thinking and functioning and were meant to rule the world, I don't know what is?!?</p>
<p>Wait, so for all you men in here, do you really judge women based solely on looks and whether/how fast you can get her in bed?!? i have brothers, but I am still amazed at this.</p>
<p>its not a permanent judging - its a quick sizing up of someone - which places them on your ladder. For example a really ugly chick who doesn't look liek she'll put out goes VERY low on your ladder.</p>
<p>just remember - if a guy doesn't find you attractive, it doesn't mean you 2 can't have a relationship - it means you 2 can be friends, and thats it.</p>
<p>haha that's funny. and i thought i knew everything there was to now about men. actually, i have to admit, this is surprisingly accurate. women do care about money, how can we not? historically, before the women's lib movement, our husbands' social status and wealth were crucial to our survival.</p>
<p>And you will know him by his forearm tattoo, 'street smarts,' weed connection, domestic violence convictions, </p>
<p>^ domestic violence is sexy? Since when? And tattoos? personally i'm not fan of tattoos or weed... i have friends who have connections so i don't see why i need a guy to go get some. (who doesn't have connections these days if they really wanted some?) and tattoos look nasty once a person starts aging so that's why i don't like 'em...</p>
<p>people who aren't bikers or whatever have street smarts too (not always but)</p>
<p>jags, I think you are taking it a little far with the domestic violence convictions... most girls I know stear clear of violent men... that's for the desperately uneducated girls. I think educated girls want men who have a little more going for them, but who are also unpredictable and exciting... not necessarily violent. </p>
<p>However, if domestic violence is attractive to any ladies here, take a look at an example of what dude's with a penchant for domestic violence are capable of (and it's ****ing sick, don't throw up):</p>
<p>if you would actually take the time to read the website i posted, then you would know what i was talking about. just scroll down and click on ladder theory. it should take more than 10 or 15 minutes to read it all.</p>
<p>well, as a female, i can honestly say that i am attracted to the bad boy type. but i see them only as a transient fling. if i'm interested in the long term, i definitely go for the nice guy.</p>
<p>I suppose it depends but I do like nice guys. I think if their genuinely nice and charming then its fine. I suppose the "bad boy" image can work initially but in the end you pretty much want them to be nice and doting. I def wouldne want to be around a guy who treats me lkike crap.</p>
<p>i've met very few girls who will come out and say they don't like nice guys</p>
<p>it should be obvious how they really felt</p>
<p>many girls like a project, intrigue, etc...it's that simple...really</p>
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Haha I can almost feel the testosterone oozing from this post. Jags, let me start by saying, any male who has enough time to construct an entire website and several intricate theories regarding relationships should not be taken seriously, much less used for advice. All these "theories" and terms are crap. What girls want is a meaningful relationship, an area many men are serioulsy challenged in. Sure, we like good looks. But more importantly we like guys who can treat us well but who aren't pushovers at the same time.
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<p>lol, I don't know what world you are living in but for someone to make a general statement saying "girls want a meaningful relationship" is odd. Sure, many many girls do, but quite frankly there are a LOT that don't. (unfortunately or fortunately depending on your standpoint)</p>
<p>I can't speak for all girls, but I really go for "nice guys". Every guy I've been seriously interested in is a genuine "nice guy". I have some guy friends who are angrier and wilder types, but I'm not interested in dating them. It's not even that I'm deliberately developing crushes on the nice guys (who deliberately crushes on someone anyway?), it's just how it plays out.</p>
<p>Nice guys can still be exciting, do interesting things, have some fun. Nice != boring.</p>