<p>I'm still laughing at the Taliban, Nazi and devil-worship analogies. This is my day's entertainment. Keep them coming, folks.</p>
<p>InOhio, it's a pity that the Taliban comparison had to be used, but how else was one going to get you and others to understand that there are groups that some of us just don't want our money going to? It didn't seem to be sinking in otherwise.</p>
<p>Oh...owlice. I honestly don't care if you withhold money from anything connected to a church, meat, fur, a heterosexual couple on a wedding cake, or red-eyed marbles. I do care about kids being put in the middle of it. Sounds like you've done a good job raising yours, though, and this issue will be moot for you.</p>
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JustAMom, keep trying to play that card if you'd like; it doesn't work, but you do seem to like it.
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<p>I get that you dont like the Catholic church or Catholics or anything to do with them or the Church. I could careless. I don't really like Fundamental Christians and what they stand for.</p>
<p>My point of view - for those of you who refuse to read my ENTIRE posts -
is my contribution to my daughters' college education is a GIFT. Given by me FREELY. No Strings attached. Unconditionally. Just like my love for them.</p>
<p>InOhio - you have to be lienent with owlice - he has only one child who is 14. The fun has not yet started.</p>
<p>Bay - I am not sure you are a hypocrite. If you had a child who chose not to go to college and you gave them the same amount of cash as a sibling who went - then perhaps.</p>
<p>Are red-eyed marbles allowed on any Catholic campus?</p>
<p>Owlice, if I am funding my kids' education otherwise, the Taliban giving my ADULT DAUGHTER the money instead, puts that money BACK IN MY POCKET! Now, if I was principled, I would donate that money to a cause I believed in. By keeping that money, it is funded by the Taliban because it would have gone to D's education and I profit by the Taliban giving my D money. Get it?</p>
<p>Bay, I am sorry. You are right that you said later in posts you would not take the money. Owlice used an old stance of yours and I was pointing out my problem with that stance. I do apologize...I should have spoken more generically....</p>
<p>Interestingly, I was just reading another thread "Need to have awkward conversation w/S - advice," and noted that several of the staunchest defenders of Catholic schools on this thread were advocating the use of contraception for the OP's son and his girlfriend. I am curious, how do those of you square your contraception advice with the teachings of the church, without feeling like a hypocrite?</p>
<p>^^^^^^^
Huh? Ohhhhh, I shall run right over there for a look.</p>
<p>Bay, they're not called hyocrites, they're called Cafeteria Catholics.</p>
<p>Just to clear things up in regards to Franciscan U of Steubenville: there are no "rules" there regarding Catholicism. No mandatory mass, no requirement to attend the March for Life, and there are faculty members who are not only NOT CATHOLIC, they're not even nominal Christians. The only "rule" I can think of is that there are hours in the dorms for opposite sex visitation. That's it. At Christendom, there are additional "rules.: At Ave Maria, no more than at FUS.</p>
<p>Many of the evangelical and fundamentalist colleges have far more "rules" regarding chapel etc. than any catholic college.</p>
<p>mizzou, you were the one who kept carping about Bay's (supposed) hypocrisy, not I. </p>
<p>JustAMom, this card: "InOhio - you have to be lienent with owlice - he has only one child who is 14. The fun has not yet started."</p>
<p>Can't stick to the argument, so try to minimize or denigrate the opponent. Play that card if that's all that's in your hand, but it doesn't do anything to address the argument.</p>
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<p>I haven't said boo about how I feel about Catholics, except to say that I'm not anti-Catholic, and I'm not Catholic. I went to Catholic U. (I also went to a fundamentalist church school for eight years when growing up, and to a college associated with the United Church of Christ. Lived with a Jew, married an atheist, and am now married to a Christian.) </p>
<p>I can certainly understand -- and respect -- that others don't want to support the Catholic church with their money. That stance has nothing to do with the way people who don't want their money going to the Catholic church feel about their children.</p>
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My point of view - for those of you who refuse to read my ENTIRE posts -
is my contribution to my daughters' college education is a GIFT. Given by me FREELY. No Strings attached. Unconditionally. Just like my love for them.
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<p>Sure, and as a result, you'd have NO problem paying tuition to Taliban U for your daughters' college education. I get that. That doesn't mean you love your daughters more than other people love their children, however. It just means you are different from those who care where their money goes and cannot, because of their values, economically support an instititution which holds values that are repugnant to them.</p>
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several of the staunchest defenders of Catholic schools on this thread were advocating the use of contraception for the OP's son and his girlfriend
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<p>Bay, most of my friends are Catholic, and they all use contraception.</p>
<p>Owlice, it was your comment I was replying to:</p>
<p>Owlice, if I am funding my kids' education otherwise, the Taliban giving my ADULT DAUGHTER the money instead, puts that money BACK IN MY POCKET! Now, if I was principled, I would donate that money to a cause I believed in. By keeping that money, it is funded by the Taliban because it would have gone to D's education and I profit by the Taliban giving my D money. Get it? </p>
<p>I already apologized to Bay in that I should have spoken generically in the post before that....I wasn't carping....sheesh!</p>
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Bay, they're not called hyocrites, they're called Cafeteria Catholics.
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<p>I see. Well they are free to call me a "Cafeteria College Financier." lol</p>
<p>It looks like this thread has run its course. Owlice you are a snapping turtle -- you just won't let go. As fun as its been, it should end...unless owlice can put together a mission statement for Taliban U, that would be a hoot...and I be there's no need for contraceptive's there.</p>
<p>Lol...........</p>
<p>Good one, Bay.</p>
<p>mizzou, this was not my comment; it was yours...</p>
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Owlice, if I am funding my kids' education otherwise, the Taliban giving my ADULT DAUGHTER the money instead, puts that money BACK IN MY POCKET! Now, if I was principled, I would donate that money to a cause I believed in. By keeping that money, it is funded by the Taliban because it would have gone to D's education and I profit by the Taliban giving my D money. Get it?
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<p>And yes, I understand that you consider money given to your daughter as if it was given to you. Not everyone thinks like that, however.</p>
<p>I have to amend this statement: "Bay, most of my friends are Catholic, and they all use contraception." Should have been "use or used."</p>
<p>Yes, I said it was my reply???????????????????????????????????????????
Wow.....
Everyone have a good evening! Fun sparring with you all!</p>