Do you respect emo kids?

Pre-College Issues High School Life
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I don't respect emo kids, because they are egotistical. They think people should feel sorry for them because they kid themselves. That's a dumb publicity stunt.

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I meant to say cut themselves... not kid themselves. I must be really tired.</p>

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Linzoy, you have no idea what those people are going through at home. Maybe they have a right to feel sorry for themselves. Yes, they should be thankful for what they have. But the thing is, you don't really appreciate having a place to live until you don't have one anymore. What if they're being abused? What if they just lost a family member? It's not always just that they're antisocial. Everyone deserves your respect (with the obvious exceptions of like murderers and such).

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This will sound mean to you, but I don't care if they are being abused. That's not an excuse to devote your life to being miserable. Most depressed people try to avoid being depressed, they don't glorify their condition.</p>

<p>What if murderers have been abused? Why can't I respect the pain that murderers go through, and yet I'm required to respect an overdramatic kid? Sounds like an arbitrary line.</p>

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You can't base your opinion on someone because of the way they look. There's a word for that- a stereotype.

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Anyone that is involved in any subculture WANTS to be judged by the way they look. They buy emo clothes on purpose. Also, they want to be disrespected by mainsteam society. I'm not doing them any harm by giving them what they want.</p>

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And you can't base your opinion on a group because of the people you know who fit that group, because there will always be an anomaly that you don't know about.

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Well, until I know about that anomalous person, my opinion remains the same.</p>

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Just because "emo" is a very specific stereotype doesn't make the label any less unfair. Yes, "emos" may be depressed or pretending to be depressed, but that alone does not determine whether or not you should respect a person. I'm sure if the title of this thread was switched with "asians" or "blacks" or "rednecks", there would be an uproar. There's nothing wrong with labeling a person as a prep because they wear preppy clothing or emo because they have black eyeliner, but when preconcieved notions come along with these physical labels, then there's a problem.

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You're born into your race, and if you're a redneck it's because of where you grew up. You become an emo by choice. Judging someone by their choice of lifestyle isn't the same as judging them by the circumstances of their birth.</p>

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The emo kids are the pseudo-intellectual people who talk about how society has wronged them by indoctrinating today's youth into mainstream culture, with their Hollister and their Abercrombie and they make today's youth lose their sense of self and individuality.

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I was never emo, but I used to talk about how stupid abercrombie was. I was actually just bitter about the kids in middle school who made fun of me. Everyone is made fun of in middle school, except for the handfull of cool kids, and the kids who are cool in middle school are NOT cool in high school, so you should get over it.</p>

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<p>But Abercrombie is stupid! You take a plain t-shirt you bought from a sweatshop for $0.25, sew the letters "Abercrombie & Fitch" on it, and it costs $50!</p>

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<p>The term emo when applied to high schoolers is just stupid. They are doing it because they think it looks cool. It's simply a style/fashion. And then you have some who intentionally look depressed all the time because they think that makes them fit the personality more.</p>

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<p>"-Jock (I played Golf seriously for 3 years)"</p>

<p>HAHA. </p>

<p>You are right though, labels are stupid. </p>

<p>I don't respect people because of what they do, but instead by who they are. If they are a total tool then I'm not going to respect you regardless of who you are and what click you're in.</p>

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<p>Actually, A&F are geniuses for getting people to buy their products.</p>

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<p><em>Sigh</em> I knew someone would laugh at that. But I'm not going to get into a debate about whether golf is a sport right now.</p>

<p>I think the whole idea of cliques is stupid. I hang out with people from so many different cliques, I can't even keep track of who's what.</p>

<p>And by the way...just because someone looks "emo" doesn't mean they are. I know several kids who look like they could be "emo", but they're actually some of the happiest kids I know.</p>

<p>Like I said, you can't judge a book by it's cover.</p>

<p>Linzoy...I think you're being incredibly mean-spirited...and you sound like Rachael McAdams in "Mean Girls". Pretty soon you'll be talking about your Burn Book.</p>

<p>Heh. If A&F said it wasn't cool to breathe, half the country's teens would die.</p>

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<p>Our schools our so large here that there really aren't any cliques, just a huge morass of people.</p>

<p>Oh, and by the way, the real A&F went out of business 34 years ago.</p>

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<p>^Ahhh, an excellent point.</p>

<p>My school has well over 4,000 students, which may eliminate the whole clique facet.</p>

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<p>I hate emo kids. I'm glad colleges dont have them because they're usually too stupid or unmotivated to do anything except do drugs (I know a bunch of emo kids at my school and this is what I derive from them.) While they are not all like that, a good portion are, and sorry, I have no respect for such boo-hoo-hoo snobs who can't deal with life even though they live like gods compared to most of the people in the world.</p>

<p>Spoiled scumbugs is what I term them.</p>

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<p>^Actually, quite a few colleges have their own little communities of emo people.</p>

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<p>They're spoiled because they were born in the US or immigrated here?</p>

<p>Um..no. That's like blaming someone for being born into poverty.</p>

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<p>I don't respect stereotypes. I respect certain people despite their "grouping". It doesn't matter to me if you're a gangster, emo, goth, prep, jock, or none of the above if you're a good person. If their actions are bad and it's because of their stereotype so be it. Or it could just be them. Either way I respect actual people, not groups of people because they are in that group</p>

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<p>I respect them less, as a group, than other HS stereotypes.</p>

<p>I respect people who keep their emotions out of the public eye.</p>

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<p>Guys, I have just had an epiphany. Let's stuff all the emos into a gigantic plastic bottle, tie on a few iron weights, and cast them off to sea.</p>

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<p>How 'bout we don't and SAY we did?</p>

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And by the way...just because someone looks "emo" doesn't mean they are. I know several kids who look like they could be "emo", but they're actually some of the happiest kids I know.</p>

<p>Like I said, you can't judge a book by it's cover.</p>

<p>Linzoy...I think you're being incredibly mean-spirited...and you sound like Rachael McAdams in "Mean Girls". Pretty soon you'll be talking about your Burn Book.

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HisGraceFillsMe, I haven't seen the movie you're talking about, but I get the impression that you're accusing me of being a social elitist. I don't care how high emos are on the social ladder, and I don't care what anybody looks like. What I do care about is the fact that they're annoying, and they're annoying on purpose. They tell people that they cut themselves and sometimes even show off their cuts. Some people have a serious problem with cutting themselves, and those people try to hide their scars. They don't use it as a way to try to get attention. </p>

<p>There are a lot of people, not just emos, who try to annoy the more popular kids by exaggerating their own flaws. They start wearing nerdy shirts all the time just to prove how different they are. These people need to realize that they are deluding themselves if they think that refusing to get along with people makes them superior to everyone else.</p>

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<p>i respect emo kids since i don't respect normal people or society :D</p>

<p>it just makes me feel better about myself. (which is good, since it protects against depression)</p>

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<p>You probably respected society at one point in your life and wanted to be part of it. Then you might have been made fun of or something, so instead of accepting the rejection and going on with your life, you decided that all of mainstream society is evil. That attitude is based on spite. There's nothing about normal people that makes them any worse than people who cut themselves off from society.</p>

<p>Depression is just a delusion that the world is worse than it is. You're actively training yourself to be delusional, and, at the same time, you're training yourself to believe that normal people don't deserve respect and society is bad. You're not protecting yourself from depression at all, you're making yourself weak. The only thing you're protecting is your ego.</p>

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<p>Way to be insensitive.</p>

<p>Depression-true depression-is a chemical imbalance in the brain, and there is no way to "protect against it" or, inversely, to "make yourself more vulnerable" to it.</p>

<p>I can understand why you'd be annoyed with the people you're describing. But you cannot stereotype the whole group to be that way.</p>

<p>Honestly, how big is your school? I'm getting the picture of a private school girl right now...a sheltered one at that.</p>

<p>As to the "Popular kid" thing...please. Let's see how "popular" those kids are in 10 years.</p>

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<p>I don't respect or disrespect someone based on a stereotype they resemble. There are some 'emo' people I respect and some I don't, based on who they are as people.</p>