<p>I saw that for the first time, there is a space to self report you AP scores. Does anyone think this will start effecting admissions? Obviously if you got lower scores you probably wouldn't report them, but if you got a lot of 4's and 5's, don't you think that would probably be a positive thing in an adcom's eyes?</p>
<p>of course! why wouldnt it be?</p>
<p>um, yes....?</p>
<p>Sorry, it's just that in the past I heard a lot of people say that AP scores don't matter that much in admission to college.</p>
<p>What happens if your teacher's a duech and you dont do well on the AP</p>
<p>of the three APs i took this year one of my teachers was teaching the class for the first time and an other for the second time : (</p>
<p>I think if you are applying to the ivy's or top 10 schools that it doesn't matter if you have a crummy teacher, find a way to learn the material- most AP courses aren't spoon fed- or at least shouldn't be. I think the responsibility always falls on the student to find a way to be successful. We can't keep blamin the world when we don't succeed. Sorry if I sound harsh but in this day of so many on-line and supplemental help materials there is not room for "I had a bad teacher" excuse. At least that's what I tell my kids. Mean mom that I am.</p>
<p>idk prob got 4s</p>
<p>I agree with 2by2. I had a ****ty teacher for AP World. We wrote one DBQ the entire year, and only went over the other essays. And he taught straight from the book with very little lecturing... just had us outline chapters. I studied intensely for the 3 weeks before the AP test and got a 5... if you are motivated it's not hard to do well. You just have to put the time in to studying. Treat it like a college class. For every hour in class, you should spend 1-2 hours on your own studying.</p>
<p>Even if you have a bad teacher, like my AP Chemistry teacher, you're responsible for learning, ultimately. Unfortunately, bad teachers aren't taking enough responsibility for their role of teaching the best they can, but that doesn't deny the fact that you're responsible for learning the best you can. Having a bad teacher can very well affect the AP score you got--I'm positive I could have gotten a better score on AP Chemistry with a better teacher, but I still did the best I can. You're not necessarily expected to get a 5 on the AP exam if you have a bad teacher and have difficulty understanding the material, nor are you expected to know a subject as well as known by someone taught by a great teacher, but you're expected to do your best.</p>
<p>So for someone who has an otherwise great application, would listing a couple 4s in addition to many 5s be a good or bad idea?</p>
<p>No even Princeton accepts 4's in some areas. For the top schools I have read that mostly 5's with a few 4's keeps you at the top of the pile.</p>
<p>Yes, classof09, you should be proud of getting a 4. It's quite an achievement. When you think about your achievements, think beyond 5's. Even a 4, or a 3 is an achievement. A great SAT score you're proud of is an achievement. You should list your 4's not in a disappointed manner, but proudly.</p>
<p>Getting a lower AP score than 5 would still usually be better than having no score at all.</p>
<p>My position is that if you take the AP exam, report the score. If schools saw that you took the class and there's no exam score, they may wonder why not...and that does not reflect well on you.</p>
<p>Remember, once you get to college, there will be so-so and crummy profs there, too, and a poor grade in those courses counts just as much as the grades from the classes you love. Learn to teach yourself -- it is one of the most valuable lessons you can take to college.</p>
<p>What about 4s in self-studies?</p>
<p>Well, 5's in self-studies are better.</p>
<p>Since most people on CC are aiming for top top schools, you're competing with the best out there. And since college admissions is a zero-sum game, with all else being the same, a person with ten 5's will get have a greater chance of admittance than a person with ten 4's. And trust me, there are people out there with ten 5's (easily).</p>
<p>Probably not too many with ten 5s through junior year, though, and through junior year is all the colleges are going to see on the apps.</p>
<p>Yes, there surely aren't enough people out there with ten scores of 5 through junior year to fill up all the most desired colleges.</p>
<p>colleges are sent your first semester grades from senior year too</p>
<p>This is probably a dumb question, but I'll ask because I really don't know the answer...
When informally reporting our scores on the common application, do we have to list the undesirable scores? If not, wouldn't the college see them when we send the score report from the College Board? Or, do we not have to send in the "official" report until after we are accepted?</p>