Do you trust US News rankings

<p>imbth, for someone that graduated from a community college you talk a big game don’t you?</p>

<p>say, how is that Columbia admit rate v. Princeton’s working out for you now that you mention it?</p>

<p>[2010</a> Admissions Tally - The Choice Blog - NYTimes.com](<a href=“http://thechoice.blogs.nytimes.com/2010-admissions-tally/]2010”>http://thechoice.blogs.nytimes.com/2010-admissions-tally/)</p>

<p>"Try having a lower admit rate than Columbia or a higher yield rate than Penn before you make such absurd assertions. If you’re trying to be funny, keep trying. Since Princeton has dropped ED, HYS has smoked you in cross-admit battles. But kudos to you for reinforcing the stereotype of Princetonians as snooty elitists. Congratulations for your undeserved self-entitlement! "</p>

<p>^^ I still think Columbia College has lower acceptance rate than Princeton’s.
But I still think Princeton is a lot more elite than Columbia. I dont really like Columbia because it has too many “back doors”. I have met too many ordinary people who claimed that they went to Columbia but actually went to the affiliated schools which are a lot easier to get into and not so prestigious.</p>

<p>Not sure how I feel about rankings. they’re useful, but I look at the top 100 and consider them all to be similar, depending on what you’re looking for. </p>

<p>There was this one school that decided that they didn’t believe in rankings, and decided not to provide the information to calculate it. </p>

<p>What happened?</p>

<p>Well, they went from being a 1st tier school in the rankings to 3rd. Now they don’t know how to get the same amount of competitive students as before, because so many people put some stock in the rankings, even if they don’t totally base their decision off of it. </p>

<p>I personally think we should get rid of rankings altogether. It would actually force people to research schools more extensively rather than base everything off rankings. The amount of times I’ve heard my classmates saying this rank or that… Ugh. Not to mention they looked down on me for “only” applying to two ivies, and then schools like bu, miami, northeastern instead of WashU, Northwestern, Berkeley, etc.</p>

<p>confusedboy, yes, come to think about it…same here</p>

<p>“I have met too many ordinary people who claimed that they went to Columbia but actually went to the affiliated schools which are a lot easier to get into and not so prestigious.”</p>

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<p>"Plus 25% for a subjective peer assessment rating</p>

<p>What’s inexplicable about that?"</p>

<p>The weightiest factor is the least explicable, rational, transparent, or clear. It is in the realm of the gut, visceral, pub talk, talk on the golf course, trading votes etc.</p>

<p>It would be nice is they folded in to the rankings placement rates into grad, med, or FT employers.</p>

<p>Also, to what extent can we consumers of the data seen in the rankings, and providing by the schools, accurate? Is there an equivalent of the FDA which might do audits of the ‘labeling’ of the products that we are consuming, college (info/claims)?</p>

<p>USNEWS is incredibly accurate in my opinion. What matters most at the end of the day is PLACEMENT, i.e. what happens to alumni. Schools like Princeton dominate at placing their grads into grad schools and top jobs, and through circuitous means USNEWS somehow reflects this. Research matters only at the graduate level.</p>

<p>US News Peer Assessment is subjective but quite accurate based on correlations with objective data.</p>

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<p>ROFL. It reflects the narrow, insular world view that what “counts” are the sciences, mathematics, and maybe economics and some social sciences. No weight given whatsoever for excellence in languages, literature, history, philosophy, or the arts. It’s as good as useless.</p>

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<p>No, no, no. This is reflecting the perception that a “top job” is the job-that-pays-the-most. If College A sends 80% of its grads onto hedge funds, i-banking and mgt consulting, and College B sends 20% of its grads onto the same fields, another 20% into journalism, another 20% into the arts, etc., College B is not “worse.” The top job for a given student is that job that the student WANTS. And spare me from a university where the main goal of everyone is go into hedge funds, i-banking and mgt consulting. Dollar chasing is nothing to be proud of.</p>

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<p>Thanks for proving my point about the over-the-top arrogance and condescension of Princetonians. Actually, I am going to one of the schools to which Princeton loses the majority of cross-admits, so your superiority/inferiority complex is misplaced.</p>

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<p>(1) Clearly, I was referring to last year’s admissions stats. There aren’t even any yield numbers yet. And the acceptance rates are preliminary and won’t be final until after the summer meltdown.</p>

<p>(2) You’d think that a Princetonian could tell the difference between “and” vs. “or.”</p>

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<p>iamtbh, how is that part-time night school thing working out for you, by the way?</p>

<p>you seem very very unhappy, attacking someone who clearly posted that it was April 1st and therefore a joke…</p>

<p>“Actually, I am going to one of the schools to which Princeton loses the majority of cross-admits, so your superiority/inferiority complex is misplaced”</p>

<p>“–encourage wasteful spending and gamesmanship in institutions’ pursuing improved rankings;”</p>

<p>Wow. Are there actually universities doing this? Certainly none in the top 25!</p>

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<p>I misread the intent of your post. I thought the April 1st mention referred to ivy decision day. Silly me, what was I thinking? This is a college discussion website. And honestly, April’s Fools jokes tend to be funny. And yours really wasn’t. Sorry. Neither are your “community college” and “part-time night school” references. Do you write for the “Princeton Tiger” or something?</p>

<p>iamth, sorry that the part time night school situation has you too busy to spend time to have some fun and therefore didn’t think that my post below was funny, particularly because it came from a Princeton graduate. Any particular reason why you feel totally inferior to people that attend or have graduated from Princeton, as is obvious by your comments toward “Old Nassau”?:</p>

<p>"for undergraduate school rankings there really should only be two groups:</p>

<p>Group 1 - Princeton</p>

<p>Group 2 - Other colleges</p>

<p>and today is, of course, April 1st "</p>

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<p>The fact that you are so presumptuous to say that I feel “totally inferior” to Princetonians proves to me that you are one.</p>

<p>iamtbh, other than the fact that I specifically stated that I am a Princetonian, what gave you the idea that I am one?</p>

<p>is this the kind of deep research that you do at your part-time night school?</p>

<p>Say, I thought that HYS did not have any part time night school students. How did you manage to become one?</p>

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<p>Your unqualified pretentiousness gave you away. For example, your repeated “part-time night school” references. (They weren’t original or clever the first time around.) Subtlety or nuance isn’t exactly your strong suit. Neither is humor, apparently,</p>

<p>This thread is idiotic, as is iamtbh, judging by his other posts.</p>

<p>Please let the ■■■■■ die, or at least be confined to the Brown board, where he seems to enjoy promoting Stanford (as he also, coincidentally I’m sure, is doing on this board).</p>

<p>Out of curiosity, let’s see if he can support this claim:</p>

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<p>Obviously, given that his main argument relies on not feeling inferior, Princeton is terrible, Princetonians are arrogant, etc. justifying the backbone of this line of reasoning should be fairly easy.</p>

<p>iamtbh, </p>

<p>“Your unqualified pretentiousness gave you away”</p>

<p>really?</p>

<p>what is it about the fact that I already had specifically stated that I went to Princeton that did you not understand?</p>

<p>It is painfully obvious that you are one of the Princeton admissions rejects that would never have graduated from Princeton had you been lucky enough to have been accepted…</p>

<p>now run along like a little third rate part time night school student that you are…</p>

<p>USC should be higher =P</p>