Does anybody know about liberal arts colleges?

<p>Hi, I really want to know what the difference is between liberal arts colleges and universities.</p>

<p>Is anyone here a liberal arts college student? Please tell me about your experience.</p>

<p>As far as I know, professors at universities focus their attention mainly on graduate students and professors at liberal arts colleges focus their attention mainly on undergraduate students.</p>

<p>Can anyone help me clarify this?</p>

<p>Plus I want to major in neuroscience. Which is the better choice? Liberal arts college or university? </p>

<p>It will take too long to answer your question, and I would no doubt leave big gaps if I were to try. Why don’t you do some research on the subject–you could take a look at the url below–or narrow your questions so that they’re not so unwieldy.</p>

<p><a href=“Liberal arts college - Wikipedia”>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_arts_college&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>I went to a liberal arts college (LAC).</p>

<p>Jkeil911 is right in that this question is very broad and would take a long time to answer. The short version is that LACs are typically small four-year institutions (generally with less than 4,000 students) where the focus is primarily or exclusively on undergraduate education. Professors are hired primarily as teachers; they do some research but one of the goals of that research is to train undergraduates in it. They typically teach between 2 and 4 classes a semester and expect a lot of one on one work with undergrads. Classes are typically small in size (<=20). Majors are usually limited to the typical liberal arts and sciences, but some colleges have more expanded offerings.</p>

<p>Universities are typically institutions that, in addition to educating undergraduates, also offer graduate degrees (MS and PhD/doctoral degrees plus some professional ones). They can range in size, but the undergrad population usually ranges from medium-sized (~5,000) to very large (40,000+). Professors are usually hired to either primarily do research OR do a combination of research and teaching, but they don’t always see teaching as their primary goal or motivation. They may teach 1 to 3 classes a semester; some professors don’t teach at all. Class sizes can range; lower-level introductory courses can be small or large but tend to be medium-sized (50-100 students). Upper-level seminars can be quite small and are often capped at 15 or 20 students.</p>

<p>I don’t know that the generalization about students is true. It’s very true that at LACs all or most attention is focused on undergrads, because there’s no one else there. But at universities, it just depends on the university itself. Some universities - like Princeton and Rice - are noted for their very good undergraduate education. And I go to an Ivy League university with about twice as many grad students as undergrads, and I know some professors who do invest a good bit of time and energy into developing undergraduate course offerings and mentoring undergraduate researchers. So it just depends on where you go.</p>

<p>I’m going to do what I don’t normally do (because I’m biased, and I freely admit it!) and say that if you are really sure about majoring in neuroscience, a university is probably a better choice. First of all, most LACs don’t offer neuroscience - SOME do, and some of the ones that don’t may offer a neuroscience concentration in the psychology or biology departments. Neuroscience is basically a combination of bio and psych, so you could double-major or design your own major with the assistance of two professors if you really wanted an LAC experience. But for the undecided or the student who doesn’t care, most neuroscience programs are offered at research universities. Furthermore, if grad school is on your horizon, professors at universities are far more likely to be doing neuroscience research. The facilities at small LACs aren’t usually the most cutting-edge (due to cost) for brain imaging and psychophysiological research, so you’re much more likely to get experience with an fMRI scanner at a big university than a small LAC.</p>

<p>With that said there are small LACs that are in consortia with large national research universities that may make neuroscience majors and research more accessible, like Swarthmore and Haverford and Bryn Mawr (with Penn) and Amherst and Mount Holyoke and Smith (with UMass). Others are located close to large national universities, like Wellesley or Simmons with MIT and Harvard.</p>

<p>But remember that some of the most well-known universities’ undergrad divisions are quite small. Columbia, for example, only has 6,000 undergraduates. I think Rice has something like 3,000.</p>

<p>There are liberal art colleges that offer the full liberal arts experience with the resources of a university. The Claremont Colleges are perhaps the best known model of this, with a course catalogue of 2500 classes that are very easy to cross enroll in, and several shared resources like the largest undergraduate library sytem and 7 dining halls.</p>

<p>The most endowed liberal art colleges like Pomona have fMRI scanners (just 1, sure, but how much does a school with 70 neuroscience majors need?). And the neuroscience students are fully trusted to use these tools, with no competition from graduate students. Several of these schools have partnerships with schools in the surrounding area- if there is a clear need to use graduate level resources, we have partnerships with UCLA, USC, and Caltech to do so. I have not heard of one student dissatisfied with the technology and resources offered at Pomona, however.</p>

<p>The educational experience at a liberal arts college is incredible. Yes- Princeton and Rice duplicate the education itself, but do they replicate the faculty interaction and undergraduate focus in the same level? The faculty here care so much about your growth and progress that it’s honestly astounding, and because the emphasis is fully on the undergraduates, there is this top of the world, deeply intimate connection. </p>

<p>I honestly think going to a liberal arts college- especially the really endowed and well-connected ones like Pomona, Amherst, and Haverford- is the best model for undergraduate education out there. These schools also have substantial research opportunities available and top notch facilities on their own accord, so you aren’t really at any sort of disadvantage for attending them except for the lack of public recognition.</p>

<p>Wow, thank you all for your detailed answers! I really appreciate it! :D</p>

<p>Take a look at some of the smaller universities as they can offer the best of both worlds. Examples I am familiar with: Tufts, U. Rochester, Brandeis…</p>

<p>I don’t think I need to expand on the answers above but I would say that you should visit different types/sizes of schools and see what suits you. It is a personal decision – two smart and rational people could end up feeling comfortable at two different types of institutions. For example, my D fell in love with the more imitate, all undergraduate atmosphere at a LAC where my S felt a LAC was too small and chose to attend a mid-sized university. They both ended up at fantastic schools that suited their personality, interests, and needs. </p>

<p>Are you using the Seach feature at all? Many of the questions you are asking have been previously discussed–there are numerous threads on LAC vs University for instance.</p>

<p>OP, I wrote a long piece about the differences between LACs and unis over here that you might find helpful: </p>

<p><a href=“approaches of teaching at different kinds of colleges? - College Search & Selection - College Confidential Forums”>approaches of teaching at different kinds of colleges? - College Search & Selection - College Confidential Forums;

<p>I tried not to favor one or the other, or to consider the in-between schools, but my D wants neuro and I’m really encouraging the small to medium unis or those consortium LACs because I think the available equipment is greater and the opportunities for research are stronger. Neuro right now is sooooo much about the latest research and machinery and skills rather than the established wisdom, which LACs might do a better job deconstructing. You’re going to have to go onto graduate school so why not put yourself in an environment in which the research is, often enough to make a difference, more important than the teaching.</p>

<p>In addition to core science courses, neuroscience has been a popular subject of research and study at Amherst College.</p>