Does anyone find this offensive?!

<p>Bwaha, Bigjake, you show your ignorance with this statement:</p>

<p>"Liberals, again, at the core, believe that government has to help everyone."</p>

<p>Wrong! Liberals, at the core, look at society at the whole, and feel it is the standing government's responsibility to help raise up the poor. Tell me, how do you expect a single mother with 3 kids and working two jobs to ever get ahead? That's the place where government comes in. Now, we know it's not perfect, but conservatives, "at the core," their motto seems to be "not my problem." Now I know this isn't indicitave of all conservatives, but that's what the general concept among them (and, probably, you) seems to be.</p>

<p>Personally, I'm a conservative. I, many times, look at poor people and make prejudgements, like "oh, they must not have tried as hard as they could in school" or "oh, they must be stupid alcoholics." I rarely give the beggars on the street money. I am the most money-concious person I know, and fiscally, the biggest concern on my mind is balancing that damn federal budget. And no, I don't support cutting social programs first, because, well, I'm a liberal.</p>

<p>Socially, anyway, I'm more of a liberal, in knowing that in many cases, it isn't people's fault, or that they deserve a second chance.</p>

<p>Now Bigjake, even a smart guy like you can find the utter nonsense in the second part of your post, so I don't think I even need to address it.</p>

<p>Guys...keep in mind that having liberal viewpoints or conservative viewpoints doesn't necessarily make you a Democrat or Republican. </p>

<p>I have some of both. That's probably the best way.</p>

<p>"Socially, anyway, I'm more of a liberal, in knowing that in many cases, it isn't people's fault, or that they deserve a second chance."</p>

<p>Does this mean that people who are living their own individual live's to their fullest are obligated to support the destitute with their own tax dollars that are fed into big government programs that in effect just offer quick fixes to the problems? Sounds flawed to me. What Americans need is education and a kick ass court system.</p>

<p>"Does this mean that people who are living their own individual live's to their fullest are obligated to support the destitute with their own tax dollars that are fed into big government programs that in effect just offer quick fixes to the problems? Sounds flawed to me. What Americans need is education and a kick ass court system."</p>

<p>Remember that they chose to live in this country, and this is their government. Should they ever become poor, which can happen to anybody, they'd get the same help.</p>

<p>Plus they get roads.</p>

<p>I stand by what i said Jewboy...whether you think so or not...you're post confirms what i said that liberals feel like government should help everyone.</p>

<p>How do i expect that mother to support 3 kids on her own? Well, why in hell did that mother have 3 kids in the first place. She knows she poor, she knows she cant take care of the kids she already has, and yet shes still screwin other people and having more kids. Of course, liberals tell me..."Yeh, ok, it happened...what are you gonna do?...but we still have to help." That's so typical...look only at the effects, not the causes. That mother knows that the more children she has, the more money the government is going to shove into her pocket. Is that good for creating a responsible generation and encouraging people to actually do something with their lives? We're not obligated to than throw away our tax dollars to help people who don't want to do anything with their lives. You have to be stupid if you think that an intelligent woman with goals and dreams would end up in the situation you described. You're right...its not my problem.</p>

<p>Today, the government has programs to help the poor, but we still have poor people. This means that the root of the problem is not with the gov't.</p>

<p>If you're poor, there's plenty of things already present in the system to help you succeed. Government aid and financial programs will pay your way through college. We have so many colleges in this country that anybody can get an education and be a productive member of society. Look at other countries that actually cut off education to people who don't prove themselves worthy. America really is the land of opportunity. Everybody has a chance, regardless of background, to at least take care of themselves financially. Our tax dollars go into providing those opportunities. Is it too much to ask that these people show a little effort in wanting to achieve something?</p>

<p>"How do i expect that mother to support 3 kids on her own? Well, why in hell did that mother have 3 kids in the first place. She knows she poor, she knows she cant take care of the kids she already has, and yet shes still screwin other people and having more kids."</p>

<p>Bwahaha, Bigjake, you're just digging your own grave.</p>

<p>What if she fell into poverty? Like, say, her job got "outsourced" and she couldn't find a new job in a reasonable amount of time? How can she "go learn something else" when she's got 3 kids at home, and no job and no source of income?</p>

<p>No, it's not your problem, but you live in this country, and it's the country's problem. Why should my family's tax dollars go towards a war against a paper tiger like Saddam Hussein? Not my problem, but it's my country's, and I'll still pay those tax dollars, in hope that those soldiers will be brought home.</p>

<p>Bigjake, your words do show that you're the classic neo-conservative. You don't have to post your opinions anymore, because I know exactly what they'll be. I sometimes listen to Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly, too.</p>

<p>Hockey, you could say the same thing about Saudi Arabia and terrorism. But then, you'd be wrong.</p>

<p>I'm a typical conservative? Look at you. You're a typical leftist b!tch. I'm actually giving you valid opinions. You don't have enough intelligence to understand them, so you resort to "BWAHAHAHHA" and insults. You're just hopping on the bandwagon. Today, its "cool" for young people to be liberal. Its cool to smoke crack in a circle while bashing George Bush. Congrats. You're cool.</p>

<p>"What if she fell into poverty? Like, say, her job got "outsourced" "</p>

<p>Ahaha...so outsourcing is bad? Are we supposed to forcefully prevent a natural economic progression? We've reached such a high standard of living that other countries produce goods cheaper than we do. What did you expect? Rather than accepting the benefits - standard of living in other countries is rising and we're getting goods cheaper - you want to put up barriers to free trade so that we can help a few losers in our country.</p>

<p>darn conservatives, what can you expect from people who still want to raise the confederate flag</p>

<p>wow you're pretty stupid. Actually, think about it, if you lived during the Civil War, you probably wouldn't support THAT war either, so we'd still have the Confederate flag.</p>

<p>Actually, the Democratic party at that time was very pro-South.</p>

<p>AHAHA thank you hockeygenius...i forgot about that</p>

<p>I'm not talking about Terrorists here Jewboy531. I'm talking about hard-earned American dollars, not Islamic fascists.</p>

<p>Anytime jake.</p>

<p>"Ahaha...so outsourcing is bad?"</p>

<p>Well, actually, yes it is. IBM sends its jobs over to India, firing all its "grunt" jobs here in America. Less Americans to buy IBM's goods, less income for IBM.</p>

<p>In the long run, the businesses outsourcing in order to get every last bit of profit will get their commupance. Can't do too much about it, just comment on it.</p>

<p>And hockey, the Democratic Party in the South (called Dixiecrats) were nothing more than what southern republicans are today. If you had an education of American history, you'd know that names mean nothing.</p>

<p>"You're a typical leftist b!tch. I'm actually giving you valid opinions. You don't have enough intelligence to understand them"</p>

<p>Ah, of course not. I apologize, oh bastion of truth and knowledge.</p>

<p>hey I know that Jewboy, just pointing out that their name back then is what you guys call yourselves today. Please don't attack my level of education, that is such a liberal thing to do.</p>