<p>Thanks Weasel. And thank you for the website url. Between the cummerbund (UCC stripe- $30), golf cap ($15)and the silk scarf (UCC stripe- $35) everyone can see these club artifacts are available at a fair cost. At least a student can take a good look at the club site and decide for him or herself whether this lifestyle is elitist or not. Depite the bashing I took on this board like it or not transparency is what students deserve before they apply to ANY school.</p>
<p>"Six to eight thousand dollars is indeed a lot of money. Princeton is supposed to increase your board by $1,500 to cover the added expense, but this will not be sufficient at some of the clubs (half of them in fact). "</p>
<p>Why does this keep getting said even after its thoroughly been disproven. The extra cost is no different from those associated with joining a frat/sorority except that Princeton does offer financial aid so that these institutions don't become economically segregated. And for the record $7.5k pretty much covers a years expense at any of the clubs...</p>
<p>For the record all the information in this thread is available on the Princeton website already. Including the photos I put up.</p>
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<p>Weasel, please don’t allow Coffee to spread this confusion to prospective students. </p>
<p>He has been hinting (and you may be confused about this as well) that it costs six thousand dollars or more to belong to a club and that these fees are in ADDITION to your normal Princeton fees.</p>
<p>This is a total misunderstanding.</p>
<p>As I’ve shown above, the cost of the meal plan at the clubs simply SUBSTITUTES for the cost of a meal plan from Princeton (unless you’re planning to eat six full meals a day!). The true additional cost for eating at the clubs is only about $1,500.00 and even this is covered by students’ financial aid packages from the University. </p>
<p>As I wrote before, no student, no matter how financially disadvantaged, is in a situation where he or she cannot afford to belong to an Eating Club. </p>
<p>By the way, as far as I know, none of the clubs has a meal plan anywhere near $8,000.00. I’m not sure where you and Coffee got that number. The Cottage fees you’ve linked are very similar to those at Colonial. Furthermore, I believe that, like Colonial, Cottage also offers a less expensive meal contract if you are eating the typical two meals a day rather than three. (Perhaps someone from Cottage on these boards can confirm this or correct me.)</p>
<p>Finally, let me say that, like Alumother, I too chose options other than the Eating Clubs. It was NOT however because they were bastions of exclusivity. In fact, they are about as far from “exclusive” as you can get. As has been pointed out numerous times, ANYONE may join a sign-in club. Even among my friends who decided to bicker, all but a couple got into either their first or second choice club. If you decide, as I did, not to join any club, you can still (like I did) attend most of their parties anyway!</p>
<p>By the way, for anyone reading these boards who might think that Coffee’s comment below suggests that students belonging to Cottage go to dinner with golf caps and silk scarves, I suggest you visit and see for yourselves. What you’ll find at all of the clubs is the same collection of worn jeans and T-shirts that you find on any college campus.</p>
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"By the way, for anyone reading these boards who might think that Coffee’s comment below suggests that students belonging to Cottage go to dinner with golf caps and silk scarves, I suggest you visit and see for yourselves. What you’ll find at all of the clubs is the same collection of worn jeans and T-shirts that you find on any college campus"</p>
<p>All I said was that I think the charges are fair. Below as noted on the website for the club are the items for sale under " merchandise" so that club members can celebrate their membership presumably around those who are and are not members. If you don't like the merchandise ( silk scarves, bow ties) take it up with them. Suspenders might be a bit high priced but I still think the Cummerbund with UCC stripe is nicely priced. Dont know the difference though between "golf cap adjustable " and " baseball cap adjustable" but the price is the same so that seems fair- perhaps that might be a good " bicker" question for 2008. Hopefully this puts the matter to rest. </p>
<p>ITEM COLOR COST SIZE
Hooded Sweatshirt Burgundy 35.00 S, M, L, XL, XXL
T-Shirt Burgundy 15.00 S, M, L, XL
Logo Golf Shirt Burgundy 35.00 S, M, L, XL
Cottage Tie UCC Stripe 35.00<br>
Cottage Bow Tie UCC Stripe 20.00<br>
Cummerbund UCC Stripe 30.00 One Size
Jack Bitner Logo Tie Black 35.00<br>
Jack Bitner Logo Tie Burgundy 35.00<br>
Suspenders UCC Stripe 37.50 One Size
Silk Scarf UCC Stripe 35.00<br>
UCC Flip Flops Black/Burg 18.00 S, M, L
Women's Racer Back Tank Grey w/ logo 12.00 S, M, L
Playing Cards 2 Decks/Box 5.00<br>
UCC Mug Stein w/ Gold Trim 15.00<br>
Golf Cap Burgundy 15.00 Adjustable
Baseball Cap Burgundy 15.00 Adjustable </p>
<p>Please Call the club to place an order</p>
<p>Coffee, no one likes trolls. You're beating a dead horse here, and no one's going to change their mind because of your continued criticism. I suggest you simply let the matter rest, for the sake of your own credibility (or whatever's left of it).</p>
<p>GR Elton: There is nothing left of it. ;)</p>
<p>Who do you think buys this stuff?</p>
<p>Princeton alumni who have learned leadership and networking in the club system, go to Wall Street, or on to become CEOs, and make honking sums of money.</p>
<p>I am not one of those myself. I am much more the blue-haired type. The clubs are what they are. They aren't what this troll is trying to make them into.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.princeton.edu/%7Ecotclub/%5B/url%5D">http://www.princeton.edu/~cotclub/</a>
<a href="http://www.princeton.edu/%7Ethevine/main.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.princeton.edu/~thevine/main.htm</a>
<a href="http://www.princeton.edu/%7Etigerinn/tiindex.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.princeton.edu/~tigerinn/tiindex.html</a>
<a href="http://www.princeton.edu/%7Etower/Update2006/main/%5B/url%5D">http://www.princeton.edu/~tower/Update2006/main/</a>
<a href="http://www.princeton.edu/%7Ecapgown/history.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.princeton.edu/~capgown/history.htm</a>
<a href="http://www.colonialclub.com/%5B/url%5D">http://www.colonialclub.com/</a>
<a href="http://www.cloisterinn.com/supporttheinn.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.cloisterinn.com/supporttheinn.html</a>
<a href="http://etcweb.princeton.edu/Campus/text_Terrace.html%5B/url%5D">http://etcweb.princeton.edu/Campus/text_Terrace.html</a>
<a href="http://www.charterclub.org/%5B/url%5D">http://www.charterclub.org/</a></p>
<p>My son says with cafeteria food quality becoming better, the attraction of eating clubs is waning (at least amongst his friends).</p>
<p>PtonGrad, I assumed that people understood what you were saying about substituting the club fee for price of board. My point was that there will still be a gap between the cost of joining a club and of being independent or living in a four year college. The difference won't be much, but in the spirit of full disclosure we should mention it.</p>
<p>For those of us in Wilson and Butler, the clubs remain a very attractive option.</p>
<p>LOL Weasel. I agree. Food in Butler was questionable....</p>
<p>weasel, you butler/wilson people need to quit clogging up the whitman dining hall!;) You are the reason they run out of plates every meal!</p>
<p>Yeah I know where you're coming from. I went to Whitman one time, and it took me twenty minutes to get a sandwich. I've never been back. Rocky/Mathey is a nice compromise, but it's so far away lol.</p>