<p>idk…your interview, experience, and skills?</p>
<p>So just based on an interview, you think employers discount the difference between a student who came through Cal with a 3.9 and a scrub that got through Cal with a 2.6?
I guess we’re talking about different kinds of employers here.</p>
<p>Referencing NCB’s list of Nobel Laureates, I’m amazed that Berkeley has 65! That’s more than 2x UCLA and UCSD combined (56). I’m shocked that UCB isn’t ranked in the top 20, but I can understand the criteria/bias lol that is implemented in USNWR. I believe that UCSD and UCLA are amazing schools as well, and should also be ranked higher.</p>
<p>I’ve hired many post-grads and I’ve never asked for their GPA, nor has anyone that I’ve worked with (that I am aware of). It’s all based on your interview and perceived potential. I’m not saying no company does, but I think people do have a misconception about what employers look for. There is a huge difference between excelling in a school environment vs. the working world, so a GPA isn’t really representative of too much. </p>
<p>Also, it’s unlikely that someone hiring you would be aware of specific programs and how they compare to others, unless they are famous (i.e. Haas).</p>
<p>I should caveat that this also depends on what career you will be going into. I’m speaking just based on my experience in an office (large, corporate, entertainment company) environment. If you’re applying for a position in a hedge fund, then it’s probably a whole different ball game.</p>
<p>In response to the original question, no, I doubt it, but who cares? It’s almost like saying, will Cambridge overtake Oxford someday in terms of ranking. Both are great universities providing an excellent academic and well-rounded education.</p>
<p>As for whether employers look at GPAs – not ordinarily as undergrads (although students can boast on their resumes if they have a good GPA), but often (depending on profession) employers do ask for GPA or for rank, like law school rank.</p>
<p>They haven’t really had 65 nobel winners, they’ve just been associated with them at one point. This list counts alumni, faculty, temporary lecturers, researchers, honorary degrees awarded to people who are dead or never took a class there, and people who were enrolled for even a single semester. Either way, it’s pretty impressive how many nobel winners have walked the halls.</p>
<p>That makes sense AMorrison.
I was referring mainly to the competitive job areas (ie. Finance & Accounting firms) where one would find it hard to get an interview without a competitive GPA. I agree that GPA is not a good indicator of potential, but when there are so many applicants GPA seems to be the most common filter used.</p>
<p>@rawfulmao</p>
<p>x.xx gpa does not = $xx,xxx salary</p>
<p>the idea of being a “competitive applicant” is that you have hopefully made connections and gained skills through internships or research. what do you call a physician that graduated first in class? a doctor. what do you call a physician that squeaked by? a doctor.</p>
<p>GPA does not matter as much as school name. Its a simple argument, look at the average salary of students in their first year out of that school and compare. For example, someone who graduated from Columbia law is going to start out with a six figure salary on average, versus someone who graduates from UCLA law who will start out around 80 thousand dollars on average. And there is only a 10 space difference in rankings between the two (Columbia being 4th in law, UCLA being around 14th)It’s a combination of connections, and school name.</p>
<p>Yes but GPA does matter to a certain extent for undergrads. For example, BIG4 often have a 3.4 cutoff for the interview. My friend with a 3.1 didn’t get an interview, despite being a fairly bright guy with a lot of solid activities under his belt.</p>
<p>If I’m ever in charge of hiring I will reject a Cal grad just to be a ****.</p>
<p>@ vintij: Thanks for clearing that up for me. You’re right, they’re not all Nobel winners. I do agree with you though; the amount of Nobel Laureates affiliated with UCB is impressive.</p>
<p>Speaking of UCB, will you be going? That English department is phenomenal. I still regret not pursuing English at the very least as a double major or minor.</p>
<p>All I’m saying is that for firms like the Big 4 (as Cali Trumpet mentioned), GPA does factor into whether or not you get a chance at an interview. Yes there are probably many other careers out there where it doesn’t matter, and yes mkcman17 thanks for stating the obvious.</p>
<p>I got an interview with a major investment firm off of a connection, mixed in a competative/professional resume, nailed the interview, and beat out over a dozen applicants from usc/ucla/pepperdine business. this was as a JC soph. now I have tons of connections should I decide to become an FA after graduation. in turn, that internship led me to a marketing internship with a major sports team. now I have connections in both fields should I choose to take that route after graduation. all of it started with a single connection, coupled with a competitive interview and resume.</p>
<p>@Cali</p>
<p>One of my friends with a 3.1, no connections, got an interview from PwC when they came recruiting. He was invited to a second interview and was finally offered a job.</p>
<p>On Bruinview the only min GPA that was listed was a 3.0 Beyond that, I think they mostly care about how well you do in the interview and what past experience you have.</p>
<p>Congrats, more power to you!</p>
<p>@Supa</p>
<p>Oh, wow. That is really good to hear. I am assuming the reason is because my friend goes to UCSC and your friend went to UCLA. </p>
<p>This is another example that the school you attend means a lot, because firms will hire you even if your GPA is slacking if you go to CAL/UCLA.</p>
<p>how do public schools get ranked top 5 im guessing in no particular order berkeley ucla michigan uva UT austin?</p>
<p>@DCSPORTS</p>
<p>i think W&M is in there too, along with UNC.</p>
<p>@rawfulmao</p>
<p>i’m just saying that i am an example that gpa isn’t a deciding factor. i’d go on a limb and say that most firms wont even ask for it. BS/MBA from X school is more than sufficient to get you a look. hopefully you’ll make some connections at your 4-year and you wont need to cold-call for jobs.</p>
<p>I highly highly doubt UCSD will top UCLA. And if it does, I dont think it will be for a few decades…its only 50 years old!</p>