<p>I was wondering is it enough to get a 5 in AP calculus bc to go ahead and take math 240, since most of the material in 114 will be redundant, I know that I'd only take credit for math 104 if I got a 5 in BC, but I also heard that Penn did that to suck up more money from students and force them take 114.</p>
<p>so my question is, will I be comfortable taking 240 or is it better to take 114 AGAIN?</p>
<p>IMO 114 is harder than a Calc BC 5, so only go for it if you're really comfortable. College math is a lot harder than you might think at first.</p>
<p>no, it doesn't cover all the content unless your AP course in high school was extraordinarily comprehensive beyond the scope of the AP curriculum.</p>
<p>check out the 114 and 240 curricula online and see if you learned enough to feel comfortable skipping 114.</p>
<p>Keep in mind that 114 is multivariable/3D vectors, stuff like that. I doubt you learned that in BC. The only freshmen I know in 240 took college calc classes after BC. Really, take 114.</p>
<p>You only receive credit for 104 with a 5 on BC.</p>
<p>I mean I took a look at the 114 syllabus and most of it looked familiar to me, I just want to know if I will be having serious problems if I went for 240 straight ahead, since I'm a sophomore right now and I don't want to take 240 in my junior year. I don't mind studying a little of 114's content on my own, but if it's really different than BC then I'll just take it again.</p>
<p>I think they have the finals from past years online somewhere on the math dept. site - look at them and see if you know all/most of the answers.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.math.upenn.edu/ugrad/calc/m114/%5B/url%5D">http://www.math.upenn.edu/ugrad/calc/m114/</a></p>
<p>You should probably get about 55-60% in order to move on to 240.</p>
<p>if it's 55-60% then I think I'll be OK and just take 240</p>
<p>Calc BC is math 104. BC (by collegeboard AP standards) wouldn't be the same material as what's covered in 114.</p>
<p>That said, if you had a BC class that went beyond what was required, you could probably learn the 114 stuff on your own pretty quickly and take a placement test or just sign up for 240. (talk to the dept to find out the policies on 'testing out' or getting credit - you may actually be required to get credit for 114 and simply skipping it won't help you)</p>