<p>Does being an international decrease your chances at HYPS? or is the whole "internationals have less of a chance" thing only effective at non-ivies..?</p>
<p>It applies to HYPS. (Though financial need is another matter altogether.)</p>
<p>I agree, though it's debatable whether it's because top colleges are more familiar with US high schools or because they feel that they should cater more towards US citizens because they are, after all, operating in the US. Int'l students also get generally no aid from the US federal government, so those students are literally more expensive to accept for schools like Harvard, Yale, or Princeton which gives need-based aid to all accepted students, regardless of citizenship. The financial aid problem could be alleviated by int'l students not applying for aid, though the same three schools also claim need-blindness for int'l students (I don't believe Stanford has the same policy).</p>
<p>...But it's slightly pointless for you to ask whether or not int'l students are at a disadvantage now because I'm guessing you're not going to get your green card/US citizenship by January of next year, right? Just apply and let the process work itself out. Citizenship, at this point, is pretty much beyond your control.</p>
<p>Thanks... does being a canadian have some exception to this?..... Also, I heard that some schools offer benefits for canadians in terms of admission... Which schools do this, do you know?? So I guess the bottom line is... an international+financial aid combo is the worst thing that can happen if you want to apply to Ivies...</p>
<p>Some schools offer "benefits" to Canadians in the form of allowing them to have need-based fin. aid. if they're accepted. Cornell, UPenn, and Columbia (I believe) have such policy for int'l student of Canadian citizenship only. Research all the schools you want to go and see if they offer Canadians fin. aid. </p>
<p>And lol, I don't know if it's the worst combo, though it's probably not the easiest combo to get into. I have heard of Canadians getting into really awesome schools w/out fin. aid. but there's not as many that do get in asking for aid. Still, I got into several "top" schools asking for pretty much full ride, so it's not impossible. (And I'm hardly the most amazing applicant.)</p>
<p>Mintie, are you a canadian?? Can I ask which schools you got into??</p>
<p>What happens if its an incredibly remote country which HYPS has never had a graduate from? Then does it become an advantage or does it still remain a disadvantage?</p>
<p>a related question, American citizens who attend schools overseas, are they considered international students? Is there any advantage/disadvantage to go to those schools? I noticed that in many schools admission statistics, they were reported under the international students category.</p>
<p>American citizens that live overseas applying to an American school are not international students, at least not at any school I've encountered. </p>
<p>Harvard offers full financial aid to students of any nationality. Also, Harvard has no quotas for international students and does not favour students for any reason because of their country of origin. Everyone has an equal shot--this coming from a Canadian student at Harvard.</p>