Does being in the IB Program help?

quitejaded · January 29, 2006, 12:52pm

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DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE, IB better help, or else, i'm gonnnnnnnnaaa,..jsdjhsjfsdhfksdjhsj.....!!!!!!

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Sorry to burst your bubble, but most schools weight AP and IB the same. There are schools (especially in florida) who will actually PAY to have you, so don't go all jasdfasdhlfkj on me yet. :P

cimmoresque · January 29, 2006, 2:13pm

IB is harder IMO (as an AP student), but I have a friend who took IB and she used to tell me that colleges "like AP better anyways". Not sure how true this is (I think they'd probably put them on the same level as APs, at least), but her IB hook didn't get her accepted into W&M =\ so, IB is just like having AP courses -- it shows you're taking on a challenging curriculum but if you have like a 3.0 they're not going to forgive you just because you're taking IB.

excel · January 29, 2006, 2:19pm

I am in IB, will colleges see my gpa is not high becuase of it?

maden10 · January 29, 2006, 2:22pm

^ no they'll see ur sn and wonder why its not reflected on ur app

warblersrule · January 29, 2006, 2:22pm

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colleges "like AP better anyways". Not sure how true this is

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At the top schools, this is not true. For many, many colleges, this is very true- simply because they do not know what IB is! I had an interview (with an admissions officer!) at NC State, and he was puzzled when I bragged about IB. IB is a relatively new and not very widespread program (only 480 Diploma programs in the entire US), so many colleges prefer the familiar AP.

excel- No, they won't. IB is tough, but it's quite possible to graduate with a 4.0 (uw).

quitejaded · January 29, 2006, 2:23pm

Yes, some oblivious schools think AP is better. rolleyes So of course I'm not applying to them. Losers. >:/

What do you mean not see your gpa as high? What's your GPA? Whatever it is, that's the GPA. And consider class rank.

IVYPoison · January 29, 2006, 3:04pm

it ****es me off when people say IB is that much better than non-ib courses. I go to a school in canada which only offers IB, not AP, and 75% of my friends ARE in IB, and i can tell you, IB is NOT that much harder than regular classes. I still have to work my ass off in my junior year to maintain a 4.0gpa while the IB kids have even more free time than i do. Not to mention some people who get 96% in IB math end up bombing their provincial diplomas that drop their average down to like an 88% and end up having to retake it with us non-ib'ers. My math teacher this year also said the math IB class only get about 1-2 people who score a perfect 100% on the math diploma, when he gets like 2-4 people in his non-ib class who do it.

Just makes me mad when people diss others who are not in IB and think they're lazy and/or dumb, when it takes just as much effort to maintain a high average in an extremely challenging non-ib schedule. Ie i had to take 4, 30 level cores this semester, which is almost equivalent to a full-ib course load, and is definately a lot tougher than a partial-ib course load. Yet i'm maintaining my 4.0.

Although i believe each school differs in their IB programs. Ie there's like 10 full ib kids in my school and about 70 partial ib, with the rest of the grade being overwhelmingly non-ib. we have 650 people. whereas in more competitive hs in the same city with 650 people, they got like 300 ib kids.

Also need i add that partial IB kids have a tough Junior year, but have an ULTRA-UBER slack senior year? my friend finsihed physics and math in grade 11, and now he has like 2 core subjects and the rest is either a spare or option classes. While us non-ibers maintain 3 cores in grade 11, and 4 cores in grade 12 with no options.

Sephiroth226 · January 29, 2006, 3:46pm

That's just your school I guess. Let's just say I didn't try much in AP Comp Sci and Chem and got an 85 and 90 respectively. I try my ass off in IB and get about an 88 overall average, but that is because my school is especially hard since we have only had three classes graduate and every single one has had 100%, which they are trying to keep by making it absurdly hard.

kpusa1981 · January 29, 2006, 7:40pm

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chemaddict17 · January 29, 2006, 8:09pm

i have a friend from germany/britain who took the IGCSE's.. he got 5 A*'s, 3 A's and a C in art... he claims the IGCSE's are really really easy. A levels would be cool (4 math/science classes and a bunch of other bs classes? i like the sound of it), tho my friend never took any cause he moved over here

as for IVYpoison's comment, i have to say it all depends on the IB program. in fact, that statement applies to pretty much every comment made about IB in this thread. for example, my HL chem class, which consists of three ppl that have been doing chem for 3 years and all plan to major in it, has covered the whole AP book, and gone into stuff that normal ppl do junior year in college. that, however, doesn't mean that all IB HL chem classes are like that. the same can be said about relative difficulty. your IB program might have u in only 2 core courses, while i have a full load of 6 classes and less frees than pretty much anyone outside IB.

finally, at least for us, the quality of our IB class varies greatly from year to year. last year we have more than half the ppl in the program score over a 35 (even with some unexpected MAD downgrading), while this year it is possible that a big portion of the class wont get the 24 necessary for a diploma.

kpusa1981 · January 29, 2006, 11:39pm

What is your GPA goingthedistance?

quitejaded · January 29, 2006, 11:45pm

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my friend finsihed physics and math in grade 11,

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hellz ya! :)

_feeling · January 30, 2006, 12:21am

do they look at your GPA (percentage) or your IB score out of 45?? cuz u can get a 80smth % and still get a pretty good score out of 45...i think..

scarletleavy · January 30, 2006, 6:54am

For US universities they look at your GPA except for when assigning credit for classes based on your exams. It seems that colleges in the US don't really care about your final diploma score. Unfortunately.

Most colleges in the US don't seem to know a lot about the IB or seem to care, which is very unfortunate, because in most places the full diploma program is quite difficult. AP students don't have to write the TOK essay, Extended Essay, or do the CAS hours and all the other stupid coursework required to graduate. That is what kills, not the classes, all the extra work required.

xantixgravityx · January 30, 2006, 12:06pm

I am doing the full diploma. My school only offers IB. It's the only school in the country that has IB. I consider IB to be a lot harder than AP. Right now I'm editing my extended essay. The IB full diploma is a lot. TOK is not easy! Even Math SL is kinda hard! The only reason why I'm doing IB is because it's helping me get into college in the US. Yes, it is good preparation since the workload in IB is a lot of pressure and after IB college is a breeze. If I wasn't applying to schools abroad, I wouldn't be doing IB since the universities here don't give a crap about IB and do not offer any credit.
IB is european and universities there really recognize IB. The colleges in the US I applied to said that they recognize IB, especially Suffolk, they give sophomore standing to those who get 28 or above on the diploma!

I agree with scarletleavy.

scarletleavy · January 30, 2006, 12:11pm

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do they look at your GPA (percentage) or your IB score out of 45?? cuz u can get a 80smth % and still get a pretty good score out of 45...i think..

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Colleges in the US look at GPA, other countries they look at your score. The 45 points is 42 points based on your exams and 3 points based on TOK and Extended Essay (there is a matrix that decides how many of those 3 extra points you get) The other 42 points come from your 6 classes, a possible 7 for each.

The percentage on each paper only affects that classes mark. For example I take Math HL and we have 3 papers. My math grade comes from the marks on that paper. Each class is seperate. Plus there are percentages from the coursework as well.

xantixgravityx · January 30, 2006, 12:37pm

wow math hl?!

scarletleavy · January 30, 2006, 12:40pm

Oh yeah. It's hard as hell. I also did my Extended Essay in math, but that turned out pretty cool.

chemaddict17 · January 30, 2006, 7:38pm

i wish i could do math HL.. they're beginning to offer it at my school THE YEAR AFTER I LEAVE! not cool. interestingly enough, one of the universities im applying to (U of Rochester) gives scholarships to IB students.. and full tuition if u do IB and are in their school district (tho im not). so ib is definitely appreciated.. u just have to do some searching.

Going_The_Distance · January 30, 2006, 7:46pm

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