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Face it, with the exception of liberal arts colleges, at TOP universities being asian hurts you tremendously. dont try to lie. dont try to fool the public. Everyone w/ a clear mind knows it. you know besides saying "he's ignorant" you got no backup or logical argument. so stop your ignorant postings.
you can't say that unless you actually heard an admissions officer say that "being asian hurts you tremendously"</p>
<p>there's a princeton sociology research paper on that.
admissions officers wont admit their dirty deeds bobby. grow up. face the real world</p>
<p>i think these boards might be better without some of the ignorant, misguided statements that you make....</p>
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admissions officers wont admit their dirty deeds bobby. grow up. face the real world
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again, you haven't really cited any specific data... You can't generalize or stereotype about one race, as everybody is different and therefore can't make assumptions just based on someone's race... </p>
<p>If it affects the admissions process "tremendously" as you ignorantly put it, why isn't the percent asians at ivies at like 3%? How come I still see Asians from my school getting accepted into top colleges more than any other racial group?</p>
<p>If you're a very small percentage NA, is it dishones to put NA on the common app to help your chances for acceptance and financial aid? will they ask you to prove it later on?</p>
<p>we all know that the op just wants to take advantage of being native american... but can we really blame him/her? if i were in his/her position i would check off the box Native American, even though I have never really faced discrimination or faced the adversity TRUE native americans face. with college admissions getting increasingly more difficult, i think its only rational to take advantage of what you can, even if that means checking off native american just for the benefits without identifying yourself truly native american.</p>
<p>In order to check the Native American box under the ethnicity category you must either:</p>
<p>a) Be recognized by the government. This can happen in two ways:
1. Acquire a roll by having EVIDENCE that you are a descendant of a Native American that was recognized by the federal government.
2. Have a blood test done and be over 25%.</p>
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<p>b) Identity with the Native American culture to a large extent.</p>
<p>The original poster does not meet either of these requirements and, as such, should not LIE to admissions offices. If your counselor catches wind of the situation, he or she WILL investigate and your offer of acceptance will most likely be rescinded.</p>
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...if you are not a registered tribe member? I've been told that I'm part Cherokee among many other nationalities including Asian, Jewish, Irish, Syrian, and even Hispanic. Do colleges care about filling quotas with non-affiliated Native Americans?
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<p>It does. Almost everyone, now-a-days, claims they're part Native American. It's a way of filtering out people who claim they are and those who actually are.</p>
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Have a blood test done and be over 25%.
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<p>There is no such thing, if you literally mean a medical test on human blood. What is your evidence that this procedure exists?</p>
<p>My apologizes. I was trying to make the argument that in order to get a CIB you need to be 25%.</p>
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There is no such thing, if you literally mean a medical test on human blood. What is your evidence that this procedure exists?
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<p>Native</a> American DNA Testing
I don't know how legit it is.</p>
<p>Thanks for the link to the commercial site. There is a LOT of scientific doubt about the validity of such procedures. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/summary/320/5872/53%5B/url%5D">http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/summary/320/5872/53</a> </p>
<p><a href="http://www.genomeweb.com/issues/news/146092-1.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.genomeweb.com/issues/news/146092-1.html</a> </p>
<p>Has there been litigation on this subject yet? That is, has anyone claiming to be an American Indian (Native American) and desiring tribal affiliation ever been able to gain tribal affiliation on the basis of a blood test in the absence of genealogical records?</p>
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I don't know how legit it is.
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<p>Seems like a fairly straightforward statement.
You asked to show evidence that the procedure exists. You did not ask for evidence that the procedure was legitimate.</p>
<p>Thanks for reminding me that you weren't vouching for the company. When I read your earliest post here, I thought you were writing as someone who had some role in a tribal government deciding who gets to be counted as a member of the tribe. Yes, I was aware since sometime last year that there are companies (you linked to the most famous of those) that claim to provide information about one's ancestry just from a DNA test. I was also aware even earlier than then that there are a lot of scientific objections to such a commercial service. I browsed around the company's site some more after I posted my last reply to you, and I see the statement </p>
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<p>Test results are statistical probabilities of your origins and must be interpreted with caution. Human populations have been mixing since they began leaving Africa more than 100,000 years ago. A genetic marker can strongly suggest an origin, but is not 100% proof because no markers have so far been found that exist exclusively in a single group. If all the available tests are run on any given individual that still represents only a small percent of their total DNA.</p>
<p>Although you may be predominantly from one of the main human population groups, the markers you discover in yourself can be from other groups because of the extensive mixing of human populations. Scientists believe that we're all descended from fewer than 100,000 individuals and that we're all related! The person sitting next to you, if they're not your parent, child, sibling, uncle or aunt, then most likely they're a distant cousin.
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<p>Geneaology</a> DNA Testing </p>
<p>That is the correct science on the issue; there isn't any sure-fire way to identify someone's ethnic group through DNA testing. </p>
<p>Are you done with the college admission process now?</p>
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Thanks for reminding me that you weren't vouching for the company. When I read your earliest post here, I thought you were writing as someone who had some role in a tribal government deciding who gets to be counted as a member of the tribe.
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<p>If you're referring to the 25% comment, I didn't write that. Another user did. </p>
<p>Secondly, I was never attempting to identify my ethnic group through DNA testing nor have expressed that I was. I made two posts here: one expressing the possible importance of stating tribal affiliation, and the above. I've yet to see how you've reached this conclusion.</p>
<p>So to answer your snarky question: no, I'm not done with college admission process.</p>
<p>Oh, you replied to my question directed to a quotation from another participant, so I then mistook you for that participant. Okay, sorry about that. Now I've read through who said what. I'll stand by the conclusion that a blood test wouldn't be the way to tell who is of what ethnicity, but appreciate you sharing the link to the company that tries to sell such services, allowing me to open up more discussion on that issue.</p>