<p>@Emil: Well thank you for sticking up for us! I admire your ability to stay so formal, respectful and authoritative while under personal attack from multiple people.</p>
<p>@ jane: Thanks! 
lol someone had to speak some justice in there!! Some of those kids think they’re entitled to more than anyone that they perceive as less than them. It’s a false sense of superiority, a defense mechanism, and is one that needs to be uprooted for the sake of themselves and society at large. </p>
<p>GO BEARUINS! lol. For now - until I can isolate my future school. :)</p>
<p>@ flwrgirl: haha thank you! I appreciate the support guys!</p>
<p>yeah, thanks emil. Your post over there was wonderfully written.</p>
<p>Cal isn’t perfect? WAHHHHH?!!!111</p>
<p>someone call CalBearGuy asap.</p>
<p>Gave them my 2 cents.</p>
<p>Well… Maybe it was more like 20 dollars. Either way, a small price to pay.</p>
<p>emil, essenar, and everyone else - brilliant posts.</p>
<p>our rhetoric and grades will do all the a** kicking, I say.</p>
<p>@ Essenar: Fantastic post! I’ll be sure to comment on there to respond to vintij and you. Awesome post, and thank you for also sticking up for the transfer class!</p>
<p>those students do make a valid point, a lot of transfer students have the luxury of bypassing the weeder classes.</p>
<p>My “weeder” class was getting kicked out of my parents house because I was “too old to live with them” and having to work while maintaining food, shelter, and grades. I believe my experience has toughened me and enabled me to work with a diverse population of people from all walks of life. Maybe I wasn’t surrounded in an intellectual bubble such as Berkeley, but I stepped out into the real world on my own. That must count for something. It must have impressed Berkeley enough to accept me:) Maybe living in the real world and stepping out as an independent while remaining academically strong is considered just as good? My problem solving came from real world situations not hypothetical scenarios in a book. The fact that I remained steadfast in my quest for an education despite the setbacks I was handed, has made me a stronger person with a lot of discipline. This is just ONE story of a transfer student. Some of us were in Iraq, Afghanistan, raising children, etc. so I wouldn’t consider bypassing weeder courses too much of a luxury in comparison.</p>
<p>^word 10cha</p>
<p>To be honest, no one really gives a crap. Those people posting on that thread are no way indicative of the aggregate Berkeley undergraduate populous. Most of those on those thread complain that transfer students do not have to take competitive “weeder” lower division classes that regular admits have to take. Their flaw however, is that “weeder” courses only pertain to certain science majors. Most of the majors at Cal don’t have rigorous weeders (history, poli sci, economics, ect), so if you major in a humanities/social science, no one will really care because you don’t have an advantage in the first place. </p>
<p>Trust me, there are plenty of dumbass freshman at berkeley too. Many went to very easy/low ranked high schools and were ranked highly there. I’ve literally met people who received 4.6s and 4.7s in their high schools and got in with a 1500s. I’ve met URMs who scored 1400s on their SATs (out of 2400). I only received a 3.8 gpa in high school (weighted) because I went to a very rigorous one, but i got a 2200 + on my SAT. Talk about high school gpa being indicative of your college performance is complete crap: and I ended with an A average as a poli sci major, and now I’m at a top 5 law school. </p>
<p>Don’t let these guys bother you. Go to Berkeley, focus on yourself, have fun, and study hard. Trust me, in the end, graduating with a degree from the most prestigious public university in the world is completely worth it in the end. I wouldn’t let any jealous idiot from preventing me from doing that.</p>
<p>I read some of that other thread and it nearly made my head explode.</p>
<p>I hope I run into some of these high-and-mighty 20 year olds if I get into Berkeley.</p>
<p>I failed out of high school in 1998. I grew up in Boston. I played in Boston Punk and Hardcore bands and didn’t care about school. I spent 10 years traveling with bands, running a record label, and working hard labor jobs. I moved to California in 2006 and worked hard/played in bands until I decided to try school. I got accepted into the Honors Program and went full time.</p>
<p>I am now applying with a 3.82 GPA TAP certified with great letters of rec. No matter where I end up going I know I will do very well. Because I have tons of life and work experience. Transfers come from diverse backgrounds and coming back to school after living life in the real world in most cases. I have seen so many people, especially in the Honors Core, who have done amazing work and hacked it all out while working full time and dealing with the CC atmosphere.</p>
<p>I don’t know, but it seems to me that these people who are saying such rude things are the nerds who got picked on in high school and ended up at Berkeley and are now just the jerks that are picking on transfer students. Being a transfer student is so much more than the black and white picture that these freshman admits are depicting them as. Did you know there are transfer students who have had to work 40 hours a week will being committed to 18 semester units/a plethora of extra curricular activities, and not to mention a home life to deal with? </p>
<p>The thing is:</p>
<p>Transfer students can not be generalized and neither can the rest of the undergraduate population at Berkeley. Honestly, although I know I saved money by going to community college, I am truly jealous of the situation many Berkeley freshman students get to be in. That is: just being a college student and very little of everything else. Many of us have actually worked our ***** off to hopefully get into Berkeley and the fact that you people are belittling our attempts because of your own jealous reasoning decimates the sense of accomplishment MANY of us should be able to feel. </p>
<p>To transfer students:
Don’t allow yourself to be bullied by people like this. Go to Berkeley, LEARN, have fun, get your diploma, and realize that many of the people who are saying hateful things about transfers, thankfully are not going to be in your life after graduation. Good luck to you all :)</p>
<p>Way to go guys! I wish you the best of luck.</p>
<p>jimmi seems cool (enough to homage hendrix) and saw right through what I was saying all along that no one wanted to seem to touch. </p>
<p>BerkeleyorBust you seem to have a super similar background as me haha. I’m sure you can agree then that if people tried to talk that much smack in Beantown or in most other places across America they would be beaten down. California has zero tolerance towards violence so much of the bay area population was conditioned towards more passive aggressive behavior what the rest of the US guys and girls alike call pussification.</p>
<p>It’s also known in the streets in highly socialized areas by the population and police that if you antagonize another person then get beat down, its considered your fault cuz you asked for it. </p>
<p>Not so in the bay area. Many never fought a day in their life or were humbled so talk a lot of smack since are use to no repercussions. They play the game i.e. antagonizing and insulting another person then if get socked will cry and say he’s being mean to me and punched me for no reason snivel snivel.</p>
<pre><code>I’m a hard person to anger but since I grew up fighting learning respect for myself and others just instinctively pounce. When I originally moved here I got into many fights at first and didn’t lose any of them. I’m not even that tough so this isn’t about bravado. I didn’t understand the cops backward take on it here that if someone starts pushing me and I push back its now my fault?!??! I got sick of getting into trouble for beating down a bunch of sniveling brats talking smack who have just gotten use to getting away with it. You will notice that due to such conditioning many cannot handle conflict or personal disagreement in any manner without resorting to insults. It becomes so fake that any real thought or emotion that rocks their group think boat immediately causes panic and anxiety in many of them. This is not meant to be insulting to bay area natives, many which I love, but as a analysis shared by almost everybody who came to California.
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<p>Bah, 4 of my aunts and uncles transferred to UCLA and Berkley from CCC, 3 of them went to medical school and 1 law.</p>
<p>1 went to UCSF
1 went to U PENN
the other went to UCLA
and one went to CAL for Law</p>
<p>WE CAN DO IT!</p>