I am always learning from College Confidential, and the necessity of high school kids submitting all of their college transcripts from their high school years when applying to college was one important thing I learned. As a side note, when it came to applying to graduate school at a UC, the transcript requirements stated that they did not want transcripts of college courses that were taken before high school graduation. I don’t know if this is true for other graduate programs as well.
@CAtransplant undecided on a major but probably something math or physics related.
D18 did not submit DE transcripts during college application process. She took the class not for the credit but just out of interest. None of her 5 colleges that she applied to seemed to care.
I’m a little surprised that MVC/LA at OP’s school only gets the 4.0 weight. At my kid’s (private) school all post-AP classes get the same weighting as the AP classes.
MVC/LA is probably not going to be very rigorous in any high school, but will still be tougher than AP Stats. If the only reason for not taking MVC/LA is the grade weighting, I think it’s a no brainer to take MVC/LA. It’s not going to help much for college admissions, but it won’t hurt either, in both cases for an otherwise 4.0 student. Even previewing linear algebra in HS will have some value for a potential CS (or biostats or bioinformatics) major.
Even if the MVC/LA course is unweighted, the minor GPA penalty on the weighted measure is no big deal imo, even though it would likely knock him out of the running for valedictorian. No one will know who is valedictorian until well past college decision time - and just about no one is going to care even a few weeks after graduation day.
How does it work by taking the DE class not for the credit? Wondering if auditing a college credit course will still help show the course rigor.
If a high school student takes a college course, whether the student regards it as dual enrollment or just for their own enrichment, they are required to submit a transcript for the course when they submit their transcripts to the college they end up attending for their undergraduate degree. I wish things worked differently, because it would be better if students had the freedom to explore college courses without having to worry about grades.
^ Thanks. That’s what I heard as well. DE courses are real college courses; the grades will be a part of undergraduate GPA. When applying to a graduate school, students are required to submit all transcripts from all institutions attended.
@mathishard123 I could be mistaken, but I think that if the college courses taken during high school are from a different college than the one the student ends up attending, then the grades earned in high school are not part of the GPA for their college degree, even though the units of credit may be allowed. Similarly, if one transfers to a new college, the GPA at the new college starts from scratch. At least that is how it was back in the dark ages when I went.
To be clear, all colleges will list what the applications requirements are on their website, and different colleges require different things . Some colleges require no transcripts with the application (e.g. UC).some only ask for HS transcripts (e.g. Stanford); some ask for all transcripts (e.g. Michigan). So just because your DD did not submit DE transcripts should not be construed by others to mean that it what they should do.
I highly doubt it. Auditing, at most schools, means attending lectures, but not the small sections, and not doing the written work. If one wants to (potentially) show rigor without worrying about GPA mpact, take it P/F.
I think the point being made is that grades earned in DE courses can have impact doen the line. For example (and I’m simplifying), DE grades for pre-meds “count” as part of their GPA for med school application regardless of whether they are part of the undergraduate GPA.
Schools set up their own weighting parameters. But often, courses not taken at the HS are not weighted.
This forum is so helpful. Thank you!
Thank you for all of your responses. The school year has started and DS ended up taking AP Stats.
Medical and law schools want all college records, including for college courses taken while in high school.
Of course, even if a graduate program does not want college records for college courses taken while in high school, some applicants may submit them anyway, because they later went to college at the same college that they took college courses from in high school.