<p>Will my chances decrease of getting into UCLA or Berkeley if applied with an engineering major, or it doesn't affect my chances. Or should i go in undeclared to increases my chances. I really don't want my major preventing me from getting in. And will it be hard to change my major to engineering once i get in as undeclared. Thank you</p>
<p>Yes it does. Apply undeclared to maximize your chance of admittance.</p>
<p>You’ll have to apply to the engineering school after you get in, but at least you’re in the school of your choice. Still highly competitive to get into the engineering school.</p>
<p>Yes, your major does affect you chances if you are applying as an engineer.</p>
<p>jwong497, you are incorrect. Applying as an undeclared engineer does not improve your chances, quite the the opposite, actually. Undeclared engineering is one of the most competitive “majors.” If you are saying the OP should apply as undeclared/undecided, they must still apply to a specific college at Berkeley. Trying to switch to the College of Engineering is extremely competitive, so it would make no sense to not apply to the CoE if you already know you want to do some kind of engineering. Also, you said “at least you’re in the school of your choice.” Well, maybe you can get into Berkeley, but would it really still be your school of choice if you may not be able to study your major of choice. Might as well choose a different school.</p>
<p>Here are some released statistics and information about engineering admissions at UC Berkeley and UCLA:
[Enrollment</a> & Degree Statistics ― UCLA Engineering Office of Academic and Student Affairs](<a href=“http://www.seasoasa.ucla.edu/admissions/enrollment-degree-statistics-new]Enrollment”>http://www.seasoasa.ucla.edu/admissions/enrollment-degree-statistics-new)
[Admissions</a> ― UC Berkeley College of Engineering](<a href=“http://coe.berkeley.edu/students/prospective-students/admissions.html]Admissions”>Admissions - Berkeley Engineering)</p>
<p>So you’re suggesting to stick with applying with as engineering as a major, because it will be difficult either way?</p>
<p>Yes, I would suggest applying as the major you are interested in. </p>
<p>If you aren’t sure what specific field of engineering you want to go into, apply as an undeclared engineer. I would not suggest applying as a certain major to try and gain a “backdoor” entrance to a more selective major, as your chances aren’t any better once you are at that school (your chances are probably worse, actually).</p>
<p>@uclaboy, if you want to get into the school, apply undeclared. If you care about engineering, then apply under engineering. My friends who applied to UCLA engineering, got rejected last year. The same friends who applied to UCB declared, got in.</p>
<p>@CollegiateDreams, it depends on what uclaboy wants. Does he want to get in the school and not really care about the major? Or does he care about the school and major equally as much? If he just wants to get into the school and worry about the major later, the best thing to do is apply undeclared. There are many more undeclared spots available than engineering spots.</p>
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<p>Berkeley’s College of Engineering admits by major. Note that undeclared in the College of Engineering may be more selective than some of the declared majors in the College of Engineering. However, students who are undeclared in the College of Engineering can freely choose a College of Engineering major within their first year.</p>
<p>Trying to change into the College of Engineering after entering in some other division (e.g. College of Letters and Science, where most undeclared students enter) involves an extremely competitive admissions process described here: [Change</a> of College (into COE) — UC Berkeley College of Engineering](<a href=“http://coe.berkeley.edu/students/current-undergraduates/change-of-college]Change”>http://coe.berkeley.edu/students/current-undergraduates/change-of-college) . Unless your goal is CS (in which case you can major in L&S CS if you do not get into EECS), this is a rather risky route to take if you want to major in something offered in the College of Engineering.</p>
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<p>Berkeley has only a few undeclared spots in the College of Engineering. Yes, there are lots of undeclared spots in the College of Letters and Science, but it is very hard to switch into the College of Engineering.</p>
<p>Note that this does not apply to schools that don’t have a separate admissions process for their engineering program(s). If the school treats engineering like any other major (ie, you do not have to apply for entry to that major - you just do it), then the question becomes whether they have a superabundance of engineers applying relative to their capacity in that dept. At some schools, engineering is a very popular major and there are more applicants than there are seats available. (Stanford would be an example, where the potential engineering applicants greatly exceed the liberal arts applicants despite the nearly 50/50 split in the faculty). At others, it’s not and you would actually be more competitive because of your interest. (Harvard for example is not generally a ‘destination school’ for top engineering students.) </p>
<p>On the Common App you have to decide which way you are going to go - undeclared or engineering. It helps for some schools and not others.</p>
<p>I want to study business in either Berkeley or UCLA and I don’t know whether I should apply as undeclared just to get in? Please help!</p>
<p>Is it possible to rank what hardest to easiest majors to get into, or they’re same difficulty?</p>
<p>According to the publicly released statistics on engineering admissions for grad and undergrad:</p>
<p>The hardest major to get into for 2012 in HSEAS was computer science & engineering at roughly 14%.</p>
<p>14 percent is brutal, but everyone wants to be a computer science major nowadays and UCLA is reputable in the field, so its not surprising.</p>
<p>made a mistake, comp sci, aero, and undeclared engineering all sit around 14% but MechE is the lowest undergrad acceptance rate on campus sitting at 11%</p>
<p>That’s pretty low.</p>
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