<p>I am entering soph year at penn state this fall and will be applying as transfer to NYU for '08, so I was wondering if the school gives aid to international students... I went to HS and live in ny, but decided to go to psu because it was the best ranked school I had to choose from at the time. Back in HS, I applied only to universities with a reasonable tuition, so that basically left all privates schools out. However, the price of penn state as it is right now is too high and I could not get any aid or loan from the school. </p>
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<li><p>Does anyone know if NYU, or privates in general, are more likely to give aid/scholarships in this case? I have heard of instances where liberal arts colleges or small, private instutitions award full scholarship to promote diversity/etc, but how generous are NYU and other privates like CMU, lehigh when it comes to international students?</p></li>
<li><p>From experience, state schools can't give any consideration, so I was investigating some options before heading to a SUNY knowing that I could get into a "better" school. But I also don't want apply as a transfer this spring to NYU/CMU/UW/U of illinois only to find out that I would have to pay roughly the same tuition (~30K), in which case I would have to resort to a SUNY anyway.</p></li>
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<p>2 seconds of googling.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nyu.edu/financial.aid/international.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.nyu.edu/financial.aid/international.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://wagner.nyu.edu/admissions/applying/faq.php#aid%5B/url%5D">http://wagner.nyu.edu/admissions/applying/faq.php#aid</a>
(this probably applies to all NYU schools)</p>
<p>International students are eligible for scholarship consideration. Most of our international students are self-funded or receive financial support from their government and/or employer. We encourage you to investigate foundation and government sources for funding and to visit the NYU Financial Aid Office web site devoted specifically to international students. [up]</p>
<p>^ I guess the only way of knowing would be to contact them in case I apply and get accepted, then. Without specifying the sort of scholarship offered or requirements, it is difficult to get an idea if I am eligible. I went to collegeboard and there is no report of aid awarded to international students, so that doesn't give me any perspective as to the extent of their assistance. </p>
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<li>I would leave loans as a last resort in case no aid is awarded(or avoid it altogether by attending an affordable university), especially for a tuition as expensive as NYU's.</li>
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<p>I don't understand why loans aren't considered acceptable as aid. As an American citizen, I have paid dearly into the system that now allows my son to borrow money. I believe at NYU all accepted students are eligible for the same scholarships (irregardless of being international). </p>
<p>If I were you, I might think your status as a transfer student would have a bigger impact as to you getting a scholarship vs your status as an international student. </p>
<p>At NYU, the scholarships go to the best students and/or the ones with the most need. Not too many free rides handed out. With a COA of nearly $49000 for College of arts and sciences, I consider it a major coup that my contribution out of pocket is only going to be around 12k this year. My son received a large scholarship and is also taking the maximum perkins and stafford loans available to him.</p>
<p>Obtaining a loan is not the issue, but they are only prudent to me if you already have some source of aid or are borrowing a reasonable amount, but paying ~45k (+housing) x 4 + interest could be a terrible handicap after graduation, particularly if you are coming from a lower class working family. I realize the scholarships go to outstanding students and those from poor families, but how would an international student prove he/she is in need without being able to submit/complete a FAFSA form? I am just trying to understand how that process works at NYU...</p>
<p>Actually you can complete a FAFSA. The government will reject it, but NYU will take it as adequate proof of need.</p>
<p>Thank you futurestudent, are you an int'l stuent as well? I tried doing that at my current school but they wouldn't take it. Do you know if the officers consider applications for aid through this method with the same light they do those for regular(residents/citizens) students?</p>
<p>frasi, unless there have been recent changes, there are no merit scholarships available to international transfer students at NYU. There are a limited number of them available to international freshmen but none to transfers. The only thing that will be offered to international transfers is loans.</p>
<p>sueinphilly, there is definitely a difference with regard to merit scholarships dependent on the status of the applicant. As I said, the merit scholarships available to freshmen international applicants are limited.</p>
<p>What about need based, like futurestudent mentioned?</p>
<p>As I mentioned, just loans.</p>
<p>So what is the purpose of filling out a fafsa if you will only be eligible for loans?</p>
<p>Filling out a FAFSA makes you eligible for the Perkins and Stafford federal need-based loans that have lower interest rates (5 and I think 7%, respectfully). In the case of Perkins and Subsidized Stafford Loans, interest payments are deferred until after graduation and like a six month grace period. There's only a limited amount of money that will be released for these loans based on funding at the school (especially for Perkins loans). If you have an eligible major (like critical foriegn language and life science), you may be eligible for the SMART grant, which is $4000 for juniors and seniors. But I don't know if you're eligible for Perkins and Stafford loans (though I'm assuming you are) and I don't know even more-so about the SMART grant, as you're an international student and there are different rules, of course. Maybe your home government will help fund your education, perhaps?</p>
<p>Unless I'm mistaken, the only non-citizens who are eligible for any federally subsidized loans or need-based aid, such as Perkins or Stafford, are those who have permanent resident status, or a green card. The loans that NYU mentions international transfers being eligible for are likely ones which they will recommend to you through a bank or some sort of financial institution.</p>
<p>^ exactly, so what is the point of submitting the fafsa? The government will not accept it, so perkins and stafford are out of the question. About funding from home country, I think that is mainly offered like a sponsorship when the student leaves the country specifically to attend a certain university or program; I have been here since I was 15, so I don't think that is an option. In any case, I was hoping NYU took the FAFSA from internationals as an indicator of financial need (like futurestudent mentioned) to possibly offer options like work-study, scholarships, etc, but I guess I should contact the fin aid office for a clear position on this.</p>
<p>I don't know what the point would be of submitting the FAFSA. I wasn't the one to suggest that you do that. :) I think a call to the Financial Aid office is an excellent idea. They should be able to tell you what the exact situation is for the coming year. Best of luck to you.</p>
<p>I'm a sophmore now and I'm from the UK - I first set foot in NY last year for the beginning of school so it's not like I've been away for a long time but I'm not elligible for any funding whatsoever from my home country. They have plenty of funds available for foreign students going to my country, but none whatsoever that I'm aware of for British students studying abroad - and I have researched EXTENSIVELY.
Conversely, I couldn't fill out the FASFA because you need (aside from an American address and zip code) a social security number. The idea is that international students' families don't pay taxes to the American government so we shouldn't be elligible for government funding.
I have yet to find aid anywhere that I'm elligible for, so I'd advise deciding whether it's worth it to you to go there and if so resigning yourself to lots of loans and debt! I was surprised how many of my (American) classmates have a similar amount of loans anyway, so you won't be alone! I think most people who get aid only get a few thousand. Not that I wouldn't go crazy for even one thousand. But that's just the way the system goes, I suppose.</p>
<p>So, are you currently paying full tuition at NYU? Why not go to a school in the UK? Based on the responses I got here and overall impression of the system, I find it very unlikely that I would receive financial aid, and if I did I would probably have to take haeavy loans. As it its, even 2/3 of the total costs(~30k) is a major strech for me beyond soph year. I guess I will apply to other, smaller schools that let internationals fill a financial aid form instead of the FAFSA for aid...</p>