<p>I was wondering, does race matter in transfer admissions like it does in freshman admissions?</p>
<p>I think there was a thread similar to this not too long ago...in fact, I think I may have been the one who started it. :) Since the college is not trying to build an entire class when considering transfer applications, I am thinking that it does not play as big a role as with freshman applications.</p>
<p>I could be wrong.</p>
<p>Affirmative action...</p>
<p>Affirmative action isnt allowed for the university of california and other institutions, such as private schools and public schools in different states.</p>
<p>I think race matters</p>
<p>They always say that race does not matter but come on!!! everyone knows it does!</p>
<p>From my own experience with Latinos, (and dont get me wrong my boyfriend and my best friends are Latinos) they got lower GPA, lower SAT and ACT scores, less ECs and LIED on their own applications about their experience in the essay. They cheated on every quizzes (copy me) even the AP exam. And u know what? They got into UC Berkeley. I didn't.</p>
<p>I was so p!ssed that I wanted to call UCB and tell them the truth but ...no bcoz they were my friends. I was p!ssed that all my effort i did gave me nothing but ppl who cheated got what they want</p>
<p>Anyways, as u can see they dont check ur stuff so lie lie lie</p>
<p>Anyways again YES race matters!</p>
<p>lol call them anonymously. thats messed up..</p>
<p>Certain "races" do matter namely african-american and latino, however asians and whites will effectively be forced to compete on the merits. The colleges know how to side-step any court created limitations</p>
<p>Typically avg 100 to 150 point variations or even worse, under the old SAT math and verbal combined scores, will be the differential</p>
<p>This was well documented in the recent Sup Ct cases in regards to the Univ of Michigan</p>
<p>what about middle easterners <em>Cough</em> iranians = )</p>
<p>do they get any minority points or it mainly blacks and latinos...</p>
<p>nope, not at all. you can try to write an essay about how you were discriminated against as a backlash of 9/11 but it didn't seem to help, at lesat for not for my roomate.</p>
<p>Middle easterns are classified as white. Armenians and arabs went through this court battle in the 1970s to be able to classify themselves as white in the census.</p>
<p>for more information on arabs classifying themselves as white, go here: <a href="http://www.aaiusa.org/foundation/355/not-quite-white%5B/url%5D">http://www.aaiusa.org/foundation/355/not-quite-white</a></p>
<p>and people, dont go off topic! this is for transfers not for freshmans! (everything counts less for us; except our collegiate gpa)</p>
<p>Ummm...</p>
<p>I'd be careful about test scores. In the mid-1990's the SAT was adjusted upwards by between 50-100 points, and then adjusted again at the end of the decade.</p>
<p>I hope that doesn't mean we are inferior to kids who graduated 10 years ago. Without getting into an AA debate (which has been way over done here on CC), race matters far less in transfer admissions.</p>
<p>People always blame race if they feel like they deserve something or someone else gets what they want. Jeez...that's life. If race is a concern, just don't mark it on your application. If you mean to be fair, then don't prep for tests, agitate for better funding of inner city schools, complain about legacies, bemoan the use of sports in admissions, and don't use your gender to get a boost as schools that have a lopsided gender ratio. Now that would be "fair."</p>
<p>Is race only prevalent in those who have a low economic status for college admissions? i remember someone telling me that colleges only look at race if you were from a disadvantaged background. However looking at the race of a person also serves the college. For example, if a college is seen to have more diversity, more students will apply. Thus this will create a higher amount of people applying to the college.</p>
<p>doubleyu tee ef, i thought race could help anyone who isn't white or asian...thats weird..</p>
<p>anyways, i have a question HOW THE HECK WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO FIND OUT IF A PERSON LIED ABOUT THEIR RACE ON THE APPLICATION...honestly like whos going to come after me looking to see what i am...couldn't anyone just write whatever race they wanted to? i mean how would they enforce that...?</p>
<p>Hmm...good point. But seeing your name on your application they can guess at your race. If your name is Lee Wung Chuk and you put down Afri-Am, who's going to buy that? Sometime, highschool transcript might indicate what nationality you are.</p>
<p>wow that was a really bad made up asian name lol (no offensive in case someon's name is actually that)</p>
<p>but uh yah i speak spanish and technically that falls under the definition of hispanic, so i think i should be able to write that haha</p>
<p>Schools like the UC's who do not want to (or cant legally) take race in to consideration give your application a number. The people who decide whether or not you are accepted never see your name or race.</p>
<p>Like i said, everything counts less for transfers except our GPA; therefore, i wouldnt place a strong emphasis on race as it wont be the determining factor since everything depends on your GPA.</p>
<p>but the UC's, specifically berkeley and ucla give points for "hardships" which you can talk about in your essays. all i can say is milk it for what its worth.</p>
<p>yeah, they may give points, but it certainly didnt help the African American community @ ucla, whose enrollment of African American students have been the lowest in years.</p>
<p>I just think one's race will have as much weight in a transfer admission decision, because the rationale for wanting to leave one's present college has to be legitimate, and in order to express that, one's essay has to be well above average. </p>
<p>I don't know how it would work for CC to university transfers though.</p>