<p>male,Asian,International,but studying in the US.</p>
<p>SAT-2300
SAT2:800
GPA:Now I am having a 3 unweighted GPA ,super BIG BIG killer</p>
<p>Mediocre ECs
need fa
do i even bother apply or not?</p>
<p>Any input appreciated.</p>
<p>Did you take more than one SAT II? Your chances are likely killed just because of your GPA and you said you do not have very great ECs. Nothing really stands out.</p>
<p>High Reach. .</p>
<p>3.00 GPA with no hook = no chance (don’t waste the application fee)</p>
<p>Is it worth applying if I got a application fee waiver?</p>
<p>You have nothing to lose if you get the waiver. But I honestly feel that you have no chance but if you are a really lucky kid you may have a 1% chance of getting in. Good luck.</p>
<p>That’s what i expected.Thank you.</p>
<p>Remember the cost of an application is more than just the application fee. You have to send scores (not cheap unless you get a waiver), get recommendation letters, spend time on the essays, postage etc. There is cost to the effort and may be you could use that time in applying to another school with better chances. Weigh that in also.</p>
<p>Might as well apply, but lackluster ECs + Asian international + 3.0 UW = less than 1% chance.</p>
<p>Good luck anyhow.</p>
<p>An admissions officer from Stanford spoke at my school recently. He said, “if you have anything but B’s and A’s on your transcript, don’t bother applying to Stanford.” So I have to believe that Stanford is really hung up on students’ grades, and, even if you have great essays and test scores, the officers won’t even look at them. He also said that he typically only spends about ten or fifteen minutes looking over a student’s application.</p>
<p>A lot of these posts are pretty negative, but honestly, EVERYONE has a low low chance of getting in! Unless you don’t want to spend the money, you might as well apply! The worst that can happen is you won’t get in, which happens to a LOT of people, but if you don’t apply there is no chance that you DO get in! Yes its a slim chance, but who’s isn’t? I say go for it … why not?</p>
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<p>There are many applicants whom I consider to have very good chances of being accepted.</p>
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<p>If you’ve ever taken economics before, you should know what opportunity costs are. The explicit cost of applying to Stanford includes the application fees, postage, and the money required to send scores from Collegeboard. That stuff isn’t too bad; it’s the implicit costs you have to be aware of. </p>
<p>This includes the large amount of effort and time required to write essays, especially since Stanford has essays that are pretty different from anyone else’s, meaning you can’t reuse any. Also, you have to ask for recommendations, transcripts, etc. </p>
<p>Now, this time could be better spent applying to a college that he has a better chance of getting into. It’s already given that he has a very very low chance of being accepted to Stanford, so what if all this effort could have been the difference for him getting into a school he had a better chance at?</p>
<p>So, no, the worst thing that can happen is NOT that you get rejected from Stanford. The worst that can happen is you get rejected from Stanford AND you get rejected from a school that you could’ve gotten into if you had put that extra time into it, had you not applied to Stanford.</p>
<p>Do you really want to go to Stanford? If Stanford was not famous, would you still want to apply? You might get in, but the odds seem pretty long to me. The good news is you have great SAT scores and solid (if not high) grades, so it’s not like you’ll be struggling to get into all colleges.</p>
<p>@ silverturtle: Yes, there are plenty of people who have a GREAT chance of getting in, and STILL get denied. There are plenty of people who I think would get denied, and they are accepted. Since none of us know the “secret” to getting accepted, we all have a slim chance and no one is sure they will get in.</p>
<p>@Handlebars: im assuming michiganfall is still a junior, so clearly he has plenty of time to apply to colleges. Obviously he shouldn’t spend all of his time on the Stanford app, but if he wants to apply he should make time for it. But I agree he should put the same effort into all of his college apps. So the best advice is to start on apps early so he has plenty of time to ‘put his best foot foward’ on ALL of his applications.</p>
<p>thanks for the responses ,i may as well apply just for the 1% chance but i don’t expect much.</p>
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<p>If we are presented with, for instance, a URM with perfect grades, perfect standardized testing scores, and solid ECs, we can, with a reasonable degree of confidence, report that person’s chances as being very high. Does it mean that the applicant is ensured a spot? Of course not – they are, after all, chances. If a die has a 75% chance of not yielding two heads in a row yet it does, we do not have to invalidate our hypothesis, nor do we have to give up on making numerical estimations.</p>
<p>michiganfall: you have a 0% chance of getting in</p>
<p>if you are studying in the US that means that you had the chance to take SAT II’s. The SAT II’s are required at Stanford as well as at many other colleges. This, combined with your über low gpa rule you out automatically. </p>
<p>good luck though</p>
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<p>SAT Subject Tests are not required at Stanford.</p>
<p>Haha, talk about misinformation on md5hash’s part.</p>
<p>Well I am misinformed I suppose. </p>
<p>But consider this. You are an ORM going against some of the best applicants in the nation and around the world. The vast majority of these people take SAT II’s as well as the SAT’s, which gives admissions officers more information on applicants. You do not have SAT II’s. Logically, this puts you at a disadvantage.</p>