@valletta While Tulane has a great reputation as a top national university (#39 US News ranking), that’s not the case with the business school (Freeman), which is ranked very low (#89 Bloomberg). My son is interesting to applying to top national schools near major cities with business schools. Tulane checks those boxes. However, he is also applying to Emory and Maryland and both have business schools rated in the top 25. We will be visiting the school in April and we do know that Tulane is investing heavily in new buildings and other for Freeman. Another thing is that when I read the Tulane threads on this site, I see very little discussion of the business school. In general, I am not the biggest fan of lists. In full disclosure, I am a graduate of Emory’s business school.
Does Tulane's reputation as a party school put off employers/ make the school seem less prestigious?
ljberkow said: To be honest, our biggest concern is the reputation of the business school, especially as it relates to the other schools where he’ll be applying.
I would like to chime in: We are living in and on the global village and actually, to be successful in Business World, you don’t need any business school degree at all. I will give you four examples. One is the founder of Facebook and another one is Bill Gates. Both of them did not go to business school and did not finish even bachelor degree aka both of them are college drop-outs. Another example, I know this guy and he is now a ministry of Trade in South East Asian country. This guy (the ministry of Trade) went to Harvard Art School just bachelor. Then got side track into day trading then he made a career in that business until he became the Ministry of Trade. Another example, the Head Honco aka CEO of my son’s employer with 65,000 employees, he did not go to business school at all. He went to engineering school and after college, he worked hard for a couple of years and went to business school getting MBA, paid by the company. Now, he is the CEO of that aerospace company with that many employees under him. Of course, while he was getting his engineering degree, he did not take business classes like Marketing, Accounting, Management, Business Law, Direct Marketing, Finance and Banking, Auditing, Merger and Acquisition, Corporate Finance, Real Estate, etc. He did not take any of those classes because he had to maintain high GPA and you all know that high GPA in engineering is hard to get and maintain let alone taking those business classes. All of the examples mentioned here did not go to any business schools at all and they have been using Common Sense as a tool to guide in their career and making the necessary decision in daily business world. And they are successful in business world now.
So, basically, you can go to Podunk University/college and major in whatever you like. And after college, you explore the world, work your way up and thru rank-and-file and use your Common Sense in making any decision, you will be successful too in Business World.
Anyhow, I have checked the core classes and philosophy of Freeman School of Business (Tulane Univ) they are top notch. You can not go wrong getting a business degree from Tulane Univ. After you have obtained a bachelor degree then explore the business world by working hard using Common Sense as well as working smart and be practical in nature. After two or three years getting your professional experience learning the business ropes, you need to get MBA to be competitive in business world.
So, go ahead and apply to Freeman School of Business, you can not go wrong. You will get a job and hopefully a high paying one too and work your way up the rank-and file to be Head Honco. May the Force be with y’all.
ljberkow said: Another thing is that when I read the Tulane threads on this site, I see very little discussion of the business school. In general, I am not the biggest fan of lists. In full disclosure, I am a graduate of Emory’s business school.
I would like to chime in: First of all, I don’t believe in ranking systems at all . Second of all, Tulane ranking for undergraduate is pretty impressive if anyone believes in ranking systems… More importantly, not many current students are active on this CC. They all are busy studying and doing school work. But, if you have any questions, you can contact directly to Freeman Business school and talk to any professors thru email, etc.
Also, if you like to discuss about Business Major, MBA, Graduate School, on this CC, you can join their forum and someone will answer your questions.
Hopefully, this information will help you.
I am currently a senior at Tulane majoring in Finance & Marketing (Business School). I actually switched into the business school after a few weeks as a Science & Engineering student. I can, obviously, talk about how great the A.B. Freeman Schol of Business is, or how amazing the resources are, or the amount of connections/opportunities I have been exposed to through the business school, but I am also happy to answer any business school related questions y’all might have (since @Tulanefan101 bring up a good point).
I appreciate the responses. I certainly understand that there are successful people in business who did not major in business. I also believe that the their CFOs are business majors and that business majors will get better jobs and better salaries than liberal arts majors. The same goes for computer science and engineering majors, so it is important to many. I also agree that the university itself is as important as the school itself. The value of the education is a combination of the liberal arts and the pre-professional school.
We have to distinguish between grad school and undergraduate. I believe that Tulane Business School is quite competitive in getting entry level jobs. I know in banking, they have the trainee programs called Management Development Program or something like that. Usually, how it works is like this: they will hire any college graduates from any degrees not necessarily business major. For that program, they will recruit and hire college grads from liberal arts, math, engineering and business school. They will be paid the same thing (the same dollar amount) and all will be prepped into all of the banking operations, marketing. credit and IT. They will undergo the training like 6 or 9 months depending on the bank. They will teach you debit and credit, banking policies and procedures, Financial Audit (internal audit), etc Then after, whoever has passed the test at the end of the programs, they will be placed in either operations, financial and credit, retail banking, commercial banking, etc. After that, it is competition in corporate ladder to the Top.
The moral story is you can study math or art and join that programs with the same pay at entry level and can move to the corporate ladder without needing any business degree in the beginning. AND after working 2 or 3 years if you want to be the top guy, you have to take MBA. Some banks even pay for your education, so you can take MBA without costing you a penny.
So, I know popular believe says that business degree will make more money at entry level job etc. But, it is not true in that banking trainee Management Development Programs at Commercial and Retail Banking. You don’t even need to know debit and credit to apply. They will teach you in that program. And there are also tons of information about debit and credit in internet, just use your search engine to do so.
When we visit Tulane, one of the question areas will relate to placement of Freeman School from the undergraduate business program. From my research the last couple of days, it looks like Freeman does a good job with placement of its undergraduates. I do believe that an undergraduate business degree has great value. Any student who can combine the business side with a strong liberal arts side starts out ahead.
@woshigusta: Don’t worry. Lots of uptight people here. First, I have noticed that Tulane has been named a top 10 “party school” by the likes of Princeton, Playboy and Maxim. So what?! Big Deal! It’s college. People go to study, grow up, and to have a good time. Having said that, I don’t think that employers look unfavorably upon this. Look, when recruiters are looking at Tulane grads., they are pooling them with the other 50 or so tier 2 schools. While, I’m sure that recruiters may look differently at a “B” student at Tulane and a “B” student at Yale, but they will be looking at the Tulane grad in the same light as they are looking at the person from Boston College, University of Miami, Chapel Hill and NYU.Don’t get discouraged. If Tulane is where you want to go, and you get accepted, then you are a step ahead. …and for what it’s worth, I find some posts to be condescending. “I suggest that you check the facts.” NICE! I’m sure that you did and you are right.
If this were true, students graduating from many SEC schools (known for their football tailgates and huge fraternities) would never find work! Your employers were once college students too, they know everyone parties. Also the fact that you went to a “party school” (not that I necessarily would view Tulane as one) does not mean you yourself was a wild partier!