Dominoes Falling....

<p>If you have more than one acceptance, and you know one YOU WILL NOT accept, post it. It will give someone on the wait list hope!</p>

<p>Maybe this is obvious, but maybe not if someone hasn’t been around CC for long . . . the sooner folks let schools know they are NOT attending, the sooner they can notify those kids off the wait lists.</p>

<p>Although, keep in mind some schools waitlist by type. So, if a soprano ingenue type says no, that doesn’t mean that a girl who is a belter character actress is going to have any more chance of getting in off the waitlist than she had before. Maybe if people are going to post their “I’m not attending” lists, they should post the sex and type of their child as well.</p>

<p>What complicates this, and this is boat we are in but for acting, is we have acceptances but are still waiting on a few others to make a decision.</p>

<p>There is no way to know if you will be pulled from a waitlist when someone does not accept their offer. Or if it increases your specific likelihood of getting accepted to begin with. But this serves as a good reminder to please, please let schools know as soon as possible if you decide to decline their offer. It helps all the other hopefuls out there, and helps the programs to manage their yield and available scholarship money. Do not wait until all the results are in if you know for sure you can eliminate one or two. Thanks!!</p>

<p>I think some people are not making decisions until they know all scholarship money and full packages. Several of my D’s acceptances have not given us amounts on talent scholarship money only academic money. I am sure for many students this will be the deciding piece so they don’t want to let go of any spots until they have all the info. they need to make a decision. Best of luck to those on wait-list-- I am sure many of you will get a spot at the school you are waiting for! We know several students that have gotten in 2-3 of the REALLY top schools and they can only go to one!</p>

<p>I thought most schools sent more offers than slots so as to yield their target class size. If this is the case, then I would have to believe it is still a stretch before these schools get to their wait lists.</p>

<p>AdaQuince, some schools are limiting how many they accept this year as last year, more accepted than they anticipated. I only know of one school who refused to honor their acceptances to those who declared close to (but not beyond!) the May 1 deadline. This means they are changing how they send out acceptances this year. A few of the programs have given March 30-31 deadlines, which cuts against what the schools normally allow but I understand the issue…</p>

<p>Adaquince, that’s correct. They have historical data on their “yield” – it sounds very agricultural. I worked in an admissions office once, at a very selective school. I remember that when it was time to go to the wait list, the clerks were sent to pull files for the directors to look at again. The first batch we were sent to pull were underrepresented minority applicants. Second were relatives of alumni. The third batch were students who had not applied for financial aid. Obviously every school is different!</p>

<p>I also know that at least some schools make note about whether they are truly your first choice school. If you are on a waiting list somewhere, and it’s the school you absolutely would attend if you are given the opportunity, it’s a good idea to write and tell them so. The letter will go in your file and it could make a difference. That is, if the letter is legible, sounds intelligent, and you didn’t flunk History in your senior slump.</p>

<p>mtgirl2013 - I understand that scholarship and aid info is needed before one can make a fully informed decision. My point is, however, to please inform the school and the program as soon as each elimination is made. To please not wait until the very end of the decision process if not necessary.</p>

<p>prodesse - I really hope you worked in that admissions office a very long time ago, before it became fairly common practice for a need-blind admissions process, or that the school at least never claimed to be need-blind. I would not have guessed that it factored in to how someone would be pulled from the waitlist. At least our kids will be admitted from waitlists based on program-related criteria rather than the ones you mention. I find it disturbing.</p>

<p>Shaun, it’s common practice, unfortunately, and not just for the wait list (even at schools that claim to be need blind). At many schools–not all, obviously–there isn’t merit aid left by the time they go to the wait list. Just part of the deal, alas.</p>

<p>Yes, but just because someone applies for financial aid doesn’t mean they are eligible or needy. It is the only way to get a Stafford loan which one gets even without need. It just doesn’t seem right. Especially if they claim to be need-blind.</p>

<p>Shaun0203-- I agree with you and in our case we are still considering all offers and until all possible acceptances and $$ packages are in before we make any decisions. (One we have not visited yet) I agree that there are many students that should be releasing spots to schools that they know they will not be attending for sure as soon as they eliminate that school.</p>

<p>Over thinking this… it was just for fun. It gives you something to do while you’re waiting.</p>

<p>@theatremomma what I’d think about doing while you are waiting is reading previous year’s CC posts about whatever school you are waiting on to see if there is any evidence of movement off of a waitlist in the past. CC is only a sample of people that apply so it may not tell you anything but I know that I would also be “looking for something to do while waiting” and that is what I’d probably turn my nervous energy into doing.</p>

<p>Unfortunately waitlists are so often used to manage yield that it’s really hard to tell. Last year there was a regular poster whose daughter at one point was told she was on the top of Texas State’s waitlist. Meanwhile as time went on we did see other CC posts of (females) that had gotten into Texas State choose other programs which in theory could have meant there was now a spot of the girl at the top of the waitlist. But it didn’t work that way possibly because they had already offered more acceptances than they intended to have for the class and they never turned to the waitlist. Eventually this girl was told that she was not going to get off of the waitlist at TS. However the story had a happy ending because she DID get off the waitlist at Otterbein and I believe that is where she is now. So you never know which colleges actually use the waitlist in earnest and which do not. I suppose it also varies from year to year. But if I did research CC and found that whatever school I was really waiting on regularly took kids off of the waitlist, that might make me do the happy dance. Good luck!!!</p>

<p>PS: I know you are not waiting theatremomma. I mean the proverbial “you” whoever you may be. :)</p>

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<p>I’m guessing this list isn’t as true for auditioned BFA’s, but having a non-MT S applying for STEM this year I find it so interesting, and a little disheartening. It is, however, completely consistent with what I’ve heard from other sources even for some supposedly need-blind schools. If this is the same priority given when considering RD applications it doesn’t bode well for our S.</p>

<p>I think most of you know I’m not waiting for anything. This has gone off the tracks to something that I did not intend. Let’s just let it die here…</p>

<p>^^I think it actually went into an unintended but useful direction. You’re off the hook theatremomma for the OP :slight_smile: but I did find the post about the folders that schools may turn to for the waitlist to be illuminating. Especially the “didn’t apply for financial aid” stack. Didn’t know that and I agree it is a bit disturbing if true because as was already pointed out, you have to apply for aid just to secure the loans and that has nothing to do with a college’s own resources. Interesting.</p>

<p>It’s not your fault Theatermomma. It’s never talked about but not at all surprising that ability to pay would be a factor in admissions.</p>

<p>Halflokum- Love you!. Flossy- ability to pay is a BIG reason why I am done!</p>