<p>I dont think “whats easiest?” is a good criteria for choosing your college major</p>
<p>When Law School is involved and you have only vague finite interests, yes, yes it is.</p>
<p>Oh the irony.</p>
<p>You’re planning on law school (strike one), studying a major you don’t love (strike two) and picking the easier one to inflate your GPA (strike three, you’re out!).</p>
<p>Here’s the “real deal”:
Unless you get into a T14/T1/T2 law school, which is insanely hard, you won’t make a “career” out of law. No matter how much you love law. Because the truth is, jobs as an attorney are literally based on where you went to school. GPA doesn’t matter, experience doesn’t matter, who you know does, not matter. What matters is where you went to law school. Period.</p>
<p>The LSAT is a hard exam to score well on. You don’t just walk in and pull a 180. It takes a considerable amount of intellectual strength. Someone with a 3.6 in Engineering who pulls a 175 has a better chance at getting into a T14/T1/T2 law school than you do with a Sociology 4.0 and a 165 LSAT score. </p>
<p>Will you get into law school? Definitely. A Tier 3. And you’ll think because 3 is only one number greater than 2, it has to be somewhat good right? No, it’s not. Tier 3 graduates are lucky to get public attorney positions ($30k a year average).</p>
<p>Picking an “easy” major doesn’t guarantee you’ll graduate with a 4.0. All it means is the first two years are easy. No one has an “easy time” in upper division, and to be honest, you’ll have a harder time in your upper division classes than I will in my Engineering upper division, because A) I love what I’m learning and B) My classes are quantitative, meaning if I get the answer right, I get credit, whereas your major is a lot of “subjective” reasoning, so you might think you got the right answer and get docked points anyway. And finally C) you study harder when you’re learning something you love. I could study math for 2-3 hours and I have to, but it’s not difficult for me because I like learning it. </p>
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<p>good post SNR</p>
<p>Don’t you dare patronize me you silly engineering man.</p>
<p>What makes you think I can’t make it into a T14? I got into Cornell from a community college. (Still waiting for Stanford and Harvard.) You don’t know me. I got a 2200+ on my SATs. I know more about the law school realm than you do. I’ve taken LSAT prep tests and gotten high 160’s without prep. I plan on getting at least a 175 after a summer prep class. I wouldn’t settle for anything less than NYU, Columbia, Harvard, Stanford, U Chicago, or Boalt Hall. You don’t know me.</p>
<p>You can leave now.</p>
<p>Also, I dominated little league baseball when I was older. I am impervious to striking out.</p>
<p>Are you taking a prep class because you need the structure or do you think it’ll actually give you more information than just books will? I didn’t take an prep classes throughout the whole SAT saga but am considering it now because it’s a lot more complex than the SAT was.</p>
<p>touche (idk how to get the accent on the e) :)</p>
<p>While your accomplishments are quite admirable, alot of people make it to Cornell from community college. Alot of people score 2200+ on SATs. And seriously, grow up. You’re still talking about SATs? We don’t know you. But you don’t know any of us either. So shut up or put up. You started out your thread saying none of us are better than you. Do you know any of us? What the hell did you think people would say?</p>
<p>refer to post #20.</p>
<p>AND, I only became hostile once people starting spouting things like, “OH YOU PROBABLY SHOULDN’T TRANSFER.” Or, “OH HEY I KNOW BETTER THAN YOU. YOU WON’T MAKE IT INTO A T14. SO YOU SHOULDN’T BE A LAWYER.”</p>
<p>I was once fond of you, don’t ruin our cc relationship.</p>
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<li>touche`</li>
<li>“you can leave now”. epic.</li>
<li>im the prince of egypt. i said it on the internet so it must be true.</li>
<li>noone gives a crap about sat’s. you are in college already </li>
<li>:))) i heart this site. so much bulls hit talk everywhere</li>
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<p>Sure thing.</p>
<p>You got into Cornell? Congratulations. You got into the Ivy league that everyone gets recommended to apply to. Why do you think everyone recommends them to apply? It’s not a coincidence. I was “matched” for Cornell too but I didn’t bother. Because their engineering acceptance rate (6%) isn’t reflective of the high % of transfers they accept across all departments (22%, which you’re in, unique “snow flake”).</p>
<p>And I call bull crap on you getting into Cornell. If you did get into Cornell and that’s where you were, why would you be asking us frivolous useless UC transfer students what is an easier major? Why don’t you go to Cornell’s subforum and ask your coeds?</p>
<p>Like I said, you know nothing about what your upper division GPA will be like.</p>
<p>All I was doing was offering you advice on having a fall back plan. The people who do best at getting into law school don’t pick some “easy major” to inflate their GPA. By the way, LSAT preps are overestimated. </p>
<p>I’m happy you got into Cornell, I really mean it. It’s an Ivy league school, but don’t run around here and tromp people who try to give you advice. I told you not to major in something you don’t love because for a majority of students, law school doesn’t work out and you flame me? Okay bro, good luck with getting into Harvard law lol.</p>
<p>Well at least this is more interesting than everyone kissing each other’s asses about how they’re TOTALLY gonna get into every school they applied to and how they’re appeals are TOTALLY gonna get their decisions reversed.</p>
<p>lol @ how “engineering man” was used as a put-down coming from a guy who wants to be a LAWYER.</p>
<p>I don’t follow your logic mikei…</p>
<p>ahhh 6) engineering man. also a good one. </p>
<p>“day man, ruler of the night man.champion of the sun. master of karate`, and friendship, for everyone”</p>
<p>Cornell is the Riverside of the Ivies.</p>
<p>I actually frequent the Cornell forums. (How do you think I got this embarrassing post count?)</p>
<p>AND, you may have had good intentions but you came off as ultra patronizing.</p>
<p>“Heres’ the real deal:” As if I didn’t already know what was going on. Your whole post mirrored the talk a little league coach gives to the fat kid when he tells him that he isn’t going to make the team this year.</p>
<p>I AM NOT FAT.</p>
<p>What does the fat kid say when somebody on the internet calls him fat?</p>
<p>Answer: “I AM NOT FAT”</p>
<p>“Cornell is the Riverside of the Ivies?”</p>
<p>In this situation, you are essentially a cal state student bagging on UC Riverside. Congratulations.</p>
<p>Because the median on attorneys isn’t in the 80K+ income bracket like most people assume. Actually a large part of the income curve is below $40,000 a year, which is lower than the lowest salary income of any engineering field with a bachelor’s degree.</p>
<p>Engineers on average earn over $45,000 a year with less than 1 year of experience and only a 4 year degree.</p>
<p>MEng graduates earn over $57,000 a year on average with less than 1 year of experience, which translates to a 6 year degree (Still less than law school).</p>
<p>But the income shoots up drastically with experience and when you factor things like research, patents, bonuses. Most attorneys who earn $80k a year work about 65-70 hours a week as well.</p>
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<p>That’s an image showing the % of incomes for attorneys, and as noted on the graph, the bell curve on the left is misleading because a lot of students/attorneys don’t post their salary because it’s too low. It also doesn’t take into consideration the amount of attorneys that are displaced or working in fields unrelated to law.</p>
<p>The dean of New York University himself said that law school is a mistake and his own university is robbing and extorting students who believe they will be successful attorneys when in reality, they’re looking for a lottery ticket in hoping to graduate top 10%.</p>