<p>I only skimmed through the later posts but the one important thing really stands out -- the PharmD really helps Polo with "the ladies" -- you go get 'em</p>
<p>For what it's worth, here's my summary of what it takes for an iBanking career:
-Undergrad degree at top Ivy League school (around $200,000, I agree with you there). If you wanted to be something like a quant, you could get an applied maths degree, which is very versatile.
-possibly an MBA - around $85,000 for everything if I recall correctly, though this figure may be way off. Check the Harvard/MIT/Princeton website or something and look at the approximate average total cost for a two-year MBA. Won't employers (if you get a job beforehand) often pay for an MBA, anyway?
^around $300,000, max.</p>
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I only skimmed through the later posts but the one important thing really stands out -- the PharmD really helps Polo with "the ladies" -- you go get 'em
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<p>Yeah man, when I think of modelz and bottlez I think pharmacy. Oh wait...</p>
<p>I am new to this site. This post was amusing and bizarre enough that I wanted to post. </p>
<p>Polo, I don't really understand why you are comparing your chosen field to banking. You have made your (preliminary) career decision and you should be happy and confident with that. It sounds like you are spending too much of your time trying to justify your choices. There are 135 million people in the U.S. workforce and I would say most have not spent ANY time justifying how their career is better than banking. I have not spent a moment thinking about that and I could have followed the majority of my Wharton MBA class into banking. </p>
<p>One of the things that helped me the most was knowing myself well enough to know what type of work and work environment would be best for me. When I was at Wharton there were people who were on the edge of their seats in our finance classes learning the latest options pricing model, or the latest strategy for currency hedging. I was not one of those people. I did find other classes interesting and was lucky to find a career that worked for me. There is no need to compare your choices with others or imply that your choices are superior -- they are simply just your choices.</p>
<p>I do want to give you some advice (I know you are not asking for it) as a local Penn alumni interviewer, a former recruiter for a Fortune 20 company, and as the mom of 2. I think it is excellent that you have thought through a plan for your life. I am also a planner and it has served me well. Just remember to reevaluate your plan to make sure that it makes sense as your life changes (and as a recruiter I can tell you that getting all those degrees would imply you are a professional student and/or indesicive -- both of which are not good). I also think that you should think about the attitude you have as it relates to receiving comments and advice from others. You seem like you aren't capable of listening to other opinions. I can tell you as an interviewer (for college and for a company) that arrogance and know-it-all behavior is THE biggest negative.</p>
<p>I do wish you luck in your chosen field.</p>
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I only skimmed through the later posts but the one important thing really stands out -- the PharmD really helps Polo with "the ladies" -- you go get 'em
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Being in the Army doesn't hurt as well. For better or for worse, some chicks dig the uniform too.</p>
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Polo, I don't really understand why you are comparing your chosen field to banking. You have made your (preliminary) career decision and you should be happy and confident with that. It sounds like you are spending too much of your time trying to justify your choices. There are 135 million people in the U.S. workforce and I would say most have not spent ANY time justifying how their career is better than banking. I have not spent a moment thinking about that and I could have followed the majority of my Wharton MBA class into banking.
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It all started here at post #9 where gellino said...
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The salaries of the last few years may be gone for a while, but for someone graduating from college this year or next, the money is still going to **better than any other options **besides rock star, actor or professional athlete. The problem is now that there are less spots, the competition to attain one will even be greater.
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My point is that saying it is better than ANY and ALL options is false. And I used myself as an example of why it is false. Since his quote implies that in all individual cases except rock stars, actors, or professional athletes the money in ibanking is better than any other options, it would be appropriate to use even a special individual case to invalidate this statement.
A few individuals wanted to take that and escalate it into a field vs. field debate.
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I think it is excellent that you have thought through a plan for your life. I am also a planner and it has served me well. Just remember to reevaluate your plan to make sure that it makes sense as your life changes (and as a recruiter I can tell you that getting all those degrees would imply you are a professional student and/or indesicive -- both of which are not good).
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What's your definition of a "professional student"?
As I understand it, if you can justify a need for that additional degree, then it acquiring that additional degree does not deem you a professional student.
As I have said before and will say again, the degrees that I mentioned were
1. PharmD
2. MS in an Engineering discipline
3. JD
And since I believe you didn't read the post where I provided an explanation for why each and everyone is required, I have quoted it for your convenience...
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First, there's no point on discussing the PharmD because for all intents and purposes the decision has already been made on that.</p>
<p>Second, in the National Guard O4-O6 slots tend to open up for the Engineer and Signal branches but they also tend to be specialized assignments. They would require degrees that are relevant to that branch such as MS MechE or CivilE for Engineer and ElectricalE for Signal. If I branch Armor this August, then there's enough slots across the state for O4-O-6 in the future that I would probably either choose MS MechE (which is something that I have always been interested in) or ChemE (because it's one of the more closely related engineering disciplines to pharmacy - manufacturing). So essentially this MS Engineering degree is a promotion tool to give you more chances to go from O5 to O6 (from Lt. Col. to Col.)</p>
<p>Third, the JD (+PharmD) would allow you to specialize in regulatory affairs in the pharmaceutical industry or patent law (and that additional engineering degree can't possibly hurt in this field).
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I do not seek any degree that does not help me further my goals. As you can see, each and every one that I have mentioned is useful and isn't due to indecisiveness.
The reasons for the additional degrees.
1. MS in an Engineering discpline (MechE or ElectricalE)
Assignment and promotion to an O-6 (Colonel) slot in the Corps of Engineers or Signal branches requires a relevant degree since the assignment tends to be specialized.
2. JD allows you to take your PharmD and be able to practice patent law or specialize in regulatory affairs in the pharmaceutical industry.</p>
<p>Polo, can you PM me your email address? When I tell my daughter (she's beautiful, I promise!) there's an Army guy with a pharmD in the offing, I'm sure she'll be just like all the other 'chicks' and drool.</p>
<p>Will she be sharing your broken back as well? They say like mother, like daughter. You've invented a couple new nucleotides and your DNA spells out "weakness" over and over.</p>
<p>I thought you said you were done and never going to return to this thread?</p>
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Absolutely nothing you've said is worthy of a reply.
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<p>If nothing I ever say is worthy of a reply, why are you contradicting yourself and now replying? You can't have it both ways. There is no cure for Alzheimer's yet, but hopefully there will be one in your lifetime.</p>
<p>Okay, fine. I'll give her a chance. Just tell her to call me at 212-660-2245.</p>
<p>Hey hmom, I also disagree with everything you've said in the thread so far...</p>
<p>...now I would hate it if you offered a deal where I could get an internship at a BB... or proffered me a shot at your daughter...</p>
<p>I'm just like all the other chicks, Polo, you're impossible to keep away from! Don't know which is more exciting, a man in an Army uniform or one in a pharmacy uniform, and for one man to offer both....</p>
<p>the go get 'em was sarcastic, btw</p>
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I'm just like all the other chicks, Polo, you're impossible to keep away from! Don't know which is more exciting, a man in an Army uniform or one in a pharmacy uniform, and for one man to offer both....
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I'll take my bow now. <em>bow</em></p>
<p>Did you pass along my number to your daughter by the way?</p>
<p>Now let's get back to more substantive discussions like reply #126.</p>
<p>Miley, I really admire many of the kids who post here. They are certainly driven! My daughter could do a lot worse.....there should be a CC get together.</p>
<p>i haven't seen many pharmacist males when i go to walgreens....the women there usually are like 40-50 though.</p>
<p>Some more 'chicks' in Polo's future!</p>
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Miley, I really admire many of the kids who post here. They are certainly driven! My daughter could do a lot worse.....there should be a CC get together.
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She probably did while in college. Envision her getting sandwiched by a couple of these guys...
YouTube</a> - Guido Beach
Happens all the time in college, it's an inescapable fate for most young women.</p>
<p>lil polo, that link (illegal on cc?!) just shows aspirational behaviour of a certain unfortunate population from the Jersey State. The ones aiming for a low sixs salary from PharmD degree. Sure that hmoms daughter hasnt been further west than the hamptons for beach</p>
<p>Vino Draws PE Play</p>
<p>Some PE firms have bet on the wine business in the last couple years, but will their investments yield profit or sour grapes?</p>
<p>By Kelly Holman
March 13, 2009</p>
<p>A glass of vin de pays might suffice for a steak frites dinner, but it's the wineries snaking across the rolling hills of Sonoma County that have private equity financiers salivating. The wine business is proving to be one area in mergers and acquisitions where deals are getting done. Falling purchase valuations and a dearth of financing options have created attractive acquisition opportunities for private equity investors.</p>
<p>Vino</a> Draws PE Play</p>
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lil polo, that link (illegal on cc?!) just shows aspirational behaviour of a certain unfortunate population from the Jersey State.
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What sort of logic did you use to associate those people with people who even went to college?
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The ones aiming for a low sixs salary from PharmD degree.
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You missed this part...
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Third, the JD (+PharmD) would allow you to specialize in regulatory affairs in the pharmaceutical industry or patent law (and that additional engineering degree can't possibly hurt in this field).
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Read more carefully next time. Thanks.</p>