<p>Ok so here's my issue. I dropped out of high school early and went to college early. My parents said I must be a full time student to stay on insurance. Went to school 1, did not bother withdrawing. Put on suspension, but still must be a full time student for insurance, goto school 2 (while on suspension from school 1), don't tell school 2 about school 1. Put on suspension there, goto school 3, do not tell school 3 about schools 1 or 2. At this point of my life I am mess. I work low wage jobs with no dignity, I constantly self medicate to escape the miscarriage of my son when I was 14. Still I keep telling myself this time will be different, return to school 1 without saying anything about schools 2 or 3. Put back on suspension several times. Finally gave up on school. Started working full time trying to work my way up the ladder. Developed nerve damage working my way towards manager at a pizza place. Overdosed, racked up an er bill I could never in my wildest dreams imagine being able to pay for. My parents stepped in, and said if I get my act together and goto school full time they will take care of me. I return to school 1 with a .05 gpa on like 70 attempted hrs. I have made deans list every semester since, I have taken almost all of the classes I failed (once or multi times) and made A's. This school replaces grades so I have managed to pull my gpa up to a 3.25. At this point all I need is comp1&2 for many associates, and 2 more maths and cal based physics 1&2 for a comp sci. I want to transfer to a horribly ranked 4 year that has almost 100% acceptance. I have more F's on school 1's transcript than the other 2 combined and multiplied. It's not an issue of hiding grades. My parents always said if you don't want it to transfer you didn't have, both have degrees mom's a teacher, dad's an engineer seemed like they would know. I guess back in their day there was no system to narc on you for being young and stupid. I honestly did not believe I was under any obligation to disclose my transcripts. Only when I started thinking I may have an actual chance at getting a 4 year degree did I become aware. It's come down to apply, lie, and hope not to be noticed (which I haven't been yet) or be honest and hope that the school I apply to doesn't inform school 1 and have my grades wiped and me expelled. I have searched for answers but no one has a situation quite like this. Most people either quit school, or get their act together earlier. </p>
<p>I guess your the money you wasted in tuition may be sufficient to cover your insurance.</p>
<p>Um, I don’t think you can hide your transcripts. You really need to submit all of them. You might want to finish the AA at one (?) of the schools you’ve already attended. Maybe you could even CLEP in your English Comp or other needed courses if they’d let you. You might have to ask for an exception to a CLEP policy (timing). Applying to a new 4-year college with almost 100 percent acceptance rate sounds good to me. Tell your story and show the transcripts that back it up. Bad start > got act together > academic success. Yes, you might not be in the running for any merit scholarships at this point at a new school, but if you complete the degree reqs, then you’ve got your degree. Also, check into how many attempted credits you can rack up at all schools before the Feds cut you off from aid. There might be a limit and you’d want to plan for that. Focus on the future and move on. Good luck! </p>
<p>No aid, never been on it. I’m not worried about getting into the school, I’m well above their academic requirements. Have been for 2 years now, but this issue has kept me from applying. I want out of jr college, the classes aren’t challenging, sometimes the grading is too lenient, some classes have attendance grades that can fail you even if you have an A in the class. The only reason I don’t have an AA is because I was working on my gpa, taking classes that I had no need just for more A’s. Which is how I stumbled on computer science, my major. The fact remains that I am here by “hiding” transcripts. The only full out honest and legit way that I can think of, is to tell each of the 3 schools what the situation is. I have spoken with 2 of them as an anonymous caller, I would have to go before an ethics board, and they would make a decision on anything from probation, suspension, stripping all credits and permanent expulsion. Both of which made expulsion seem very likely. 1 time? maybe, the odds of escaping all 3? Not digging those odds. Still it’s the only way I can see as being truly honest. Otherwise I’m still “hiding” my transcripts from someone. So what if I finish my AA, if this school finds out while I’m attending a 4 year they will potentially strip my credits and expel me. Then I have no idea what the 4 year would do. To be honest the more I think about it, the more I realize, I have no future. </p>
<p>The answer to this FAQ:</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.studentclearinghouse.org/”>http://www.studentclearinghouse.org/</a></p>
<p>Oh, I didn’t realize your schools 1, 2, and 3 could take action against you. Now I understand. Yea, sounds like you have to face the music. What would you like or propose each school to do? Could you at least construct that? Might you want to have this all wrapped up by the end of summer? </p>
<p>entomom only if they check, which clearly they do not always do, and I did make mention of knowledge of a narc database system. </p>
<p>Well school 2 and 3 have 0 combined credit hrs on 36 attempted hrs, so stripping me of my credit is not a big deal. School 1 however I have well over the the total required for an AA, actually not far from BA number wise, and a 3.25. With most failing grades replaced by A’s of course. To be honest I’m not sure what I would propose any of them do. All I know is no matter how I play my hand, odds are against. Not sure when this would ideally be wrapped up. I’m 30, 115lbs, with nerve damage running from my neck to my fingers in one arm and all of the jobs I have worked (none paid well enough to do more than live) I could never do again for 40 hrs a week. On one hand this would hopefully be wrapped up asap, on the other hand at least right now I can pretend there’s still a chance I could get a job that wouldn’t be a daily struggle to make ends meet. </p>
<p>Maybe even make enough to attract a mate and produce mini me’s</p>
<p>Ultimately I would like the repercussions to be less than full out expulsion. 3 schools expel you? That would most likely end any chance of even going to clown college. In that event, it would have been better to take my chances the 4 year would never check the other transcripts. </p>
<p>I’m of the mind to act and get it done. I like knowing more than not-knowing. Once you have the three schools resolved, at least you’ll be free to decide your next step, even if turns out it’ll be a long haul. Perhaps in five years all this could be behind you and you’d be in a decent-pay/conditions job, even if you’re still rebuilding toward an undergrad degree. I guess you’d ask each school for a meeting, set a plan and timeline (ethics board hearing, etc.), and move on from there. Good luck. You’ve shown yourself, with your As, that you can do college work. Now you want a more stimulating work and/or school environment. You can get there, even if it takes — what? — five more years. </p>
<p>You should not say you have no future–many Americans made great lives without a diploma. With your impressive aptitude and interest in computer, you could probably easily float into a career as a systems administrator making an impressive income by pursuing certification online. </p>
<p>Two more things: I must say I really could not understand a lot of your writing. Not to be mean, but I think it would be so great for you to develop your writing so it’s more coherent–could help you in many of life’s arenas. Also, I really hope that whatever cause so, so many problems has now been truly resolved. You must have made some horrific ethical choices, and the world does not need professionals in any field who are lacking in ethics. good luck to you, and congratulations on your amazing progress. I am sure your parents cannot believe how you’ve turned things around.</p>
<p>I appreciate and respect your input. I’m not sure that I would be given another chance by any school if all 3 throw the book at the, but it would be nice to stop worrying. 2 years now this has plagued me. Maybe it is time to just accept whatever may come. </p>
<p>Most sys admins have degrees, so maybe 20-30 years from now I could work my way into that position as long as they don’t find out about my academics. You are right I made horrible ethical decisions by not sending my transcript when the impression I had was there were no requirements for me to do so. An academic advisor told me to tell my friend he should never mention it, and if he were ever caught, to plead ignorance, then during the actual ethics board review claim his parents signed him up for classes he was unaware of. That would actually be unethical. If what I have done is so unethical that I don’t deserve to continue my education, then no company will let me anywhere near their computers. See- Edward Snowden. That clearinghouse database is used by employers too during background checks. Bet being kicked out of 1-3 schools (that is my honest expectation if I tell the truth) is probably right on par with having 1 felony, at least a serious misdemeanor. Valero won’t higher people with certain misdemeanors. Most companies won’t higher felons at all, except as sanitation engineers. </p>
<p>Keep it in perspective. Consider all the white collar criminals who’ve caused real damage to people in this nation/world. Perspective (not excusing). </p>
<p>Sounds like you’re ready to do this thing.</p>
<p>Well only 1/100th of those guys ever get punished anyway. Look at all the banks and brokerage firms who realized how stupid owning sub prime loans was. They turned around and convinced their customers how good of an investment they were. Nobody got in real trouble, I’m sure a small % were fired. Look at Bank of America, Wells Fargo, and I forget the other bank who got caught laundering cartel money? It was 3x the total gdp of Meixco they laundered, I don’t even think someone got fired over that. White collar people have a different set of rules, and different set of punishments. </p>
<p>Still I appreciate your optimism. I will be contacting schools 2 & 3 this week to find out how to deal with this. </p>
<p>Start with the transfer advisor at your own current school 1. Come clean about the classes that you registered for but never took at 2 and 3. The transfer advisors at community colleges have heard all of this before. You aren’t the only person who needed to be enrolled in college back in the day in order to keep their health insurance.</p>
<p>If all of these community colleges are in the same state, it is likely that the transfer advisor at 1 knows the policies at 2 and 3, or at least someone on staff there. Provided you don’t owe anyone any money, you should be able to get copies of the transcripts from 2 and 3 that show a whole bunch of Fs from years ago. That is fine. Again, lots of community college students your age have this in their history. Strictly speaking, you only need to tell a college or university that you are attending about previous institutions if you are applying to be a degree candidate at that college or university. Many community colleges don’t check up on every student who enrolls because many never commit to a degree program. Those community colleges won’t ask for old transcripts until the student decides to finish a full AA/AS degree there. If that is the situation at 2 and 3, you should have no problems.</p>
<p>When you have all of your transcripts, the transfer advisor at 1 can help you through the whole process of determining whether it is in your best interest to complete a full AA/AS at 1 before transferring, or if it is better to transfer to the state U now.</p>
<p>Wishing you all the best!</p>