<p>Okay, so I am currently looking into applying at this university to double major in Performance and Elementary Education. Is it possible for me to do this and still graduate in 4 years? (Performance requires a minumum of 69 hours and EE requires 34.) Please help, I'm really pretty confused!</p>
<p>Unless you take classes at the community college or stay for the spring/summer terms at UM, its not possible to get done in 4 years (unless you have a lot of credit coming in). Michigan rapes you with requirements and prereqs!! :(</p>
<p>Ah, crap. How many years do you think it would take?</p>
<p>peacelovejulie, are you sure??</p>
<p>I’m planning on double majoring in CS and pre-med, both of which are probably among the toughest and most conflicting majors at U of M. I’m only coming in with like 6-11 AP credits…And I plan on graduating in 4 years.</p>
<p>I’m sure what you’re doing is easily possible in 4 years…a lot of the requirements overlap.</p>
<p>Really? That would be great! I tried researching this but I just got very confused with it all. About how many courses would I have to take per semester? Sorry about all the questions, the answers are terrific though!</p>
<p>im planning to double in neuroscience and pre-med . . . i hope i can graduate in 4 years! :/</p>
<p>Are you talking about Vocal Performance? Because I know you can get that with a concentration in education or something in 4 years…</p>
<p>yossup, do you have more information regarding this? I plan to do the exact same thing: CS & Pre-Med. </p>
<p>Do you happen to know the overlapping requirements between these two? Thanks in advance. :)</p>
<p>UM has 2 sets of requirements (30 credits each). Area Distribution means that you have to take a set number of credits in the humanities, natural science, social science, etc. The thing that sucks about AD reqs is that you can’t use any AP credit OR any credits that are applicable to your major. The second category of requirements UM has are General reqs. This is your Language, Quantitive Reasoning, Race & Ethnicity, etc, which you also can’t use APs toward. @yosup-i know some requirements do overlap (thank God!) but i have like 26 credits from community college dual-enrollment that are transferring and 20 AP credits to apply to my electives, and I still can barely get done in 3 years with a double major. Ah! So confusing :)</p>
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<p>Premed is not a major. You have one major, and a concentration that will require you to take a couple of additional classes. That’s no big deal, tons of people follow a similar path.</p>
<p>Tough and conflicting majors would be anything from LSA and CoE, or CoE and Ross, or something similar.</p>
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<p>lol good one, yeah you can…I would be surprised to find someone who did neuroscience and NOT pre-med.</p>
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<p>Are you coming in with any AP credit? I haven’t actually spoken to anyone about this yet (except to people on this site and I might make a thread about it later…) but I think its possible to graduate in 4 years. Your two semesters of physics and 1 semester of chemistry will overlap. You can also use your 12 credits of flexible technical electives towards organic chem or something, and use your 16 credits of electives towards biology, bio chem, and your last semester of general chem. You also have a year of english required that can’t be used as humanities apparently, so we’d have to squeeze that in some how…</p>
<p>Anyways, I’m assuming your in CoE like me? If you’re in LSA it’s probably a little easier?</p>
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<p>If you did, that’d be just great! Thanks for this info! I don’t have AP credits, though. I’m an international student and we really don’t have that system, but Computer Science is definitely what I want to major in, taking the Pre-Med requisites of course.</p>
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<p>I’m in LSA actually. How is it easier? I’m completely ignorant in this subject. :S</p>
<p>To the OP - Performance in what? If you’re talking about the School of Music, there is a specific program and it is a professional school. You need to read the handbook over at the site. SOM has different prereqs if you’re talking about a BMUS degree, and the regular distribution is not in play. Tell us a little more so we can direct you to an accurate resource. Cheers!</p>
<p>PS - To ‘major’ in ‘performance’ means school of music by audition, not LSA and election of a music major. There is a specific curriculum for music + ed. You will not be able to access that info at LSA, since it’s run entirely at <a href=“http://music.umich.edu%5B/url%5D”>http://music.umich.edu</a> If you visit the site and go to current student resources, you will find a student handbook to download that outlines degree/program paths, which are very specific. Hope this helps.</p>
<p>olleocf, I’m not really sure about the differences between CS-LSA and CS-Eng, but I’m pretty sure engineering will have more pre-requisites and overall more credits required to graduate. If you do end up doing computer science though, a degree from Engineering would probably be worth more in terms of finding a nice job.</p>
<p>Anyways, being a doctor is my top priority, but I also like CS and I want to go into CS if I don’t get in med school. Is this your thought too?</p>
<p>Pre-med and CS? Good luck, haha… Maybe take a few programming courses as electives but a whole major is close to impossible.</p>
<p>It’s probably easier to do Pre-med + CS in Engineering than LSA unless you come in with 4th semester proficiency of a foreign language. The only classes an LSA CS major saves themselves from is DiffEq and Engr 100 when you factor in the premed classes (1 semester chem, 2 semesters of physics). Then they have a set of other requirements. </p>
<p>That said, LSA is a fair bit cheaper. You could probably see 10 semesters in LSA for just a little over the price of 8 in Engineering. And an LSA CS major gets access to the Engineering recruitment. So it may be advantageous overall to be in LSA over Engineering in this situation.</p>
<p>^ Orly? Cool, nvm about what I said earlier then…I think I’d still rather do Engineering though.</p>
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<p>Where are you guys getting this? There’s nothing impossible about this. It’s done frequently. There’s a pretty significant number of engineers who are pre-med. It’s more common to do bio/chem-e, since those relate more to medicine, but it’s been done fine with CS, EE, nuclear, IOE, anything you want…</p>
<p>^ Thanks tetra, that makes me feel a lot better. But it seems like it WOULD be pretty hard without AP credit. Pre-med requries 4 semesters of chem, 2 semesters of bio, 1 semester of biochem, 2 semesters of english and 2 semesters of physics (for U of M’s med school at least). The 2 semesters of physics and 1 semester of easily overlap, but what about everything else? You have 12 credits of Flexible electives, and 16 credits of electives that could all go towards pre-med, but that would only take care of the rest of chem, bio, and bio chem. You still have to fit in English somehow, and U of M won’t let you take more than 18 credits without paying extra, right? </p>
<p>So it seems like you need a little AP credit to make it possible (without extra courses)?!</p>
<p>Or am I missing something?</p>
<p>I wouldn’t say it’s done frequently. I’m a junior and have yet to hear of one engineer (besides BME or ChemE) that is also doing Pre-Med. Maybe I don’t hang out with enough engineers, though, I don’t know.</p>
<p>Yosup, just be prepared to answer interview questions on why you also wanted to do Pre-med and how it can help out a company. I was thinking about double majoring in AeroE and accidently let it slip during an interview with Microsoft. Long story short, the interviewer would not get off the topic of how my AeroE degree could help out Microsoft and I’m actually a CSE major. </p>
<p>So it may sound good now, but realize spreading yourself too thin may actually come back to bite you. These computer companies want to see someone that knows a lot within the field of computers, not someone that knows some things about computers, some things about bio, some things about chem.</p>
<p>You’ll have to wait and see when you get to the campus. Maybe you’re a genius and can do it all, but it’s something very few people can do well (not just do).</p>