Downloading Music

<p>FYI: I am no way computer savvy :(</p>

<p>So at orientation there was the subject of downloading music on your laptop when using Davis internet and I was wondering how can you download free music without getting caught/fined/restricted from Davis internet as a whole?</p>

<p>I’ve read on various forums that we can’t use torrents and that universities block all p2p websites. So, I’d also like to know:</p>

<ul>
<li>What are torrents?</li>
<li>What is p2p?</li>
</ul>

<p>I know we cant use Limewire (I haven’t used that in years anyways) or anything of that sort, but what about websites such as MediaFire or beemp3? Or how about youtube video converters like video2mp3? Are these the same things as torrents or p2p sites?</p>

<p>Oh, and what is this whole bandwidth thing people always talk about? Like how some schools have a limit and like downloading a lot of stuff means using a lot of bandwidth?</p>

<p>I am well aware I am going to get my fare share of people who are going to post ‘smart answers’ such as ‘Just buy your music, downloading is illegal’, ‘iTunes’, ‘Amazon’, ‘Buy the CD’ etc. Just please keep it to yourselves.</p>

<p>I’m not computer savvy either but there are some simple terms you can get used to.</p>

<p>Pretend the internet is a highway. Bandwidth is like the “width” of that highway. Clearly less cars (information) can be sent around on a smaller bandwidth right? Well thousands of students in college means alot of information, so obviously that’s a lot of cars. </p>

<p>Torrents are sites that post p2p (peer to peer, or person to person) sharing files, like bitorrent or limewire. The site isn’t illegal in itself i believe, but technically the site you would be linked to is. limewire differed in that it directly contained the files (i think) while bitorrent.</p>

<p>The short story is. No i wont keep to to myself, just buy your own music. UC Davis can see what your using since your using their internet. And if I was an internet cop i would definitely search for rebellious college kids, but if you do get caught UC Davis made it clear that they will step out of the way and let the Sue-fest begin on you. So unless you use their wireless connections around campus, it is likely more dangerous, but i don’t know much about soft/hardware</p>

<p>A torrent is not a site, it is a file type. Torrent files are very small and store a set of information about a larger file that people want to download or share. In order to use a torrent file, you need a client, or a piece of software. The original software used was called BitTorrent, which refers to the way that this particular method of transferring files works. Basically, what a torrent file does is analyze a large file and “chop it up” into many tiny pieces so that, instead of downloading or uploading the entire file at once, you can download or upload little pieces of it, at any time, in any order. That way, one person can download ten different pieces of a file from ten different people, and in the end they have the entire file.</p>

<p>Think of it this way: 100 people own a particular book, and you want a copy of your own. Instead of one person printing a copy of the entire book, each person makes photocopies of just two or three pages of the book they have, so that every person copies different pages, and they send you all these pages. Now you have the entire book, and you can copy individual pages and send them out as well. The client software basically is what keeps track of who is sending which pages, and how they fit together when you download them in the wrong order. It does this in the background so that once you have all the pieces, the file is already assembled and ready to use.</p>

<p>Torrents are good for certain things. They are good for very large files that can’t be downloaded or uploaded in one sitting, because you get more bits every time you run the client program, until you have the whole file. They are good for distributing files freely when you don’t have a web server where you can store the files, because once you have “seeded” enough data (which means uploading bits and pieces to other people), other people can also start seeding and your computer doesn’t have to be on for someone to get your file. They are good for relatively slow or unreliable internet connections, because you can start and stop at any time, and you can download and upload in small pieces.</p>

<p>But of course, there are some down-sides. Torrenting software is a very popular way for people to download stolen software, music and videos. Because it’s so popular, it attracts a lot of people who distribute malware and viruses. People go onto sketchy torrent search web sites, they get malware on the website, they download a torrent that they think is a bootleg of the latest Harry Potter movie, and it doesn’t play or it gives them a virus. People start downloading a bunch of stuff but as soon as they get the file, they “stop” it in the torrent client so they don’t upload enough bits to other people, and then they get banned from trackers for being a leech (someone who downloads but doesn’t upload).</p>

<p>The great thing about torrents is that it makes it easy to share your own music, videos and software for free. I shared a video of a live music event some years back by creating a torrent from the very large file instead of having to pay for online hosting. Some people look for digital copies of CDs and DVDs they already own, to use as backups - but this sort of thing is at best a legal grey area, and the MPAA/RIAA almost definitely take the position that it is still copyright infringement. A fair number of open-source software developers offer the option of torrent files in addition to direct download of their products, and there are a number of game companies that use a similar process to distribute their game files (it saves them money, even if it is usually slower and less convenient for their players).</p>

<p>If you decide to look into torrents, I recommend uTorrent for your client (fast, doesn’t hog your computer resources, lots of features) and isohunt.com for your search engine (been around a long time, good search database, plus comments and ratings sometimes help identify bad files). However, because of all the illegal activity that used torrents as a vehicle, you may find that the networks at UCD have blocked most or all torrent activity. Unfortunately this is pretty common, because for every person who is using torrents legally and respectfully, there are ten or twenty who are using it to distribute malware, download porn, or steal music, video and software without paying for it. And if you are one of that last group, be aware that your computer activity can easily be monitored by the college and by others when you use this sort of software.</p>

<p>Mmm well i was close haha. You should have just put that last paragraph in there lol</p>

<p>My suggestion would to be go to a starbucks and download there. Unless they can track at coffee shops and such places?</p>

<p>Well if I’m not mistaken, the IP address would only be traced back to the coffee shop…so all they would know is one of the hundreds of people who go to starbucks in a week is downloading something</p>

<p>I personally don’t know too much about this, but I’ll try to impart the advice I learned from my adept friend…</p>

<p>Peer 2 peer and torrents are both blocked. I am in no way suggesting you try to skirt the system, however it can be done by redirecting your IP. My friend had his somewhere in Europe and changed it around every couple weeks I believe. Again I do not suggest doing anything illegal or doing this to avoid detection. For reference, this same friend was still caught torrenting despite his IP precautions. The very second he made a mistake they caught him and had his internet turned off for awhile, had to talk to advisers, and had to talk to SJA or someone from something like that. They also had him sign some form so that if he was caught again he would immediately be kicked out of the dorms.</p>

<p>The companies pay 3rd party companies to search for their stuff being illegally shared, and they’re good at their jobs. His mistake only gave them a few hours window to catch him, and they did immediately.</p>

<p>As far as going off campus, you would be much safer since you wouldn’t be using the resnet connection. Just remember that the ARC Starbucks is still resnet. Harmless as it might seem, don’t do anything stupid.</p>

<p>@NewFaust: Using the campus wireless would not keep you from getting in trouble for downloading. Both moobilenet and moobilenetx require that you log in with your kerberos login, so they know who you are.</p>

<p>All you have to do is redirect your IP, which can be done with an XPN service, which there are many free and paid programs for. I use proXPN which redirects your IP to Miami for free accounts, and if you buy the product there are many more; it does, however, limit banwidth, but at least you don’t get caught.</p>

<p>Also, programs like Peerblock can stop trackers from looking at you without even changing you IP address.</p>

<p>■■■■■ @ P2P. & using torrents to download individual songs.w</p>

<p>find forums.
do like this</p>

<p>nameofsong (maybe artist if its a typical song name) + hulkshare
nameofsong (maybe artist if its a typical song name) + media fire</p>

<p>nameofalbum + mediafire,megaupload,fileshare,etc
(try the dev song for an example, in the dark hulkshare ; or in the dark hulkshare ; or in the dark dev hulkshare.)</p>

<p>try it out, i bet it will work for you at least 80% of the time. especially if its a popular or recent song.</p>

<p>If you really scared just get a youtube converter</p>

<p>well i will still download movies/music from torrents because i have a proxy. if you want to download torrents get one, its awesome.</p>

<p>I downloaded TV shows and movies from megaupload almost every single day for the entire year in the dorm without proxies or anything and no one even so much as talked to me about anything.</p>

<p>Torrents didn’t even work</p>

<p>@simpsonman, you cant get in trouble for downloading stuff from megaupload/other sites like that. The reason people get in trouble for downloading torrents is because anyone can check what other IP’s are downloading a torrent, so the movie companies and such just check all of the ip’s and send notifications to the ISP’s and the ISP’s send notifications to you. With a proxy service torrents will work.</p>

<p>I downloaded a ****ton of music in my dorm but never got caught…</p>