<p>ADM- you would think the school would allow a suite switch after that- how can they ask the kids to police each other and then live together after the consequences are experienced?</p>
<p>I agree that alcohol infractions, especially on a dry campus, should be dealt with seriously, after all, it is the reason that some of us choose a dry campus.</p>
<p>The female in question was given a warning, and it WAS a serious deal, involving campus police, etc, and the policy does not require expulsion for the first offense. Remember, these ARE young college students, and as much as I disliked the situation, she never brought it to the dorm again. She did drink off campus, but there is nothing that the school can do about that.</p>
<p>I am not for expulsion for a first time offense, but after that , yes. somemom, we WERE offered a change of dorms, but as my D had a terrific roommate, they did NOT want to be moved, after all they did nothing wrong, the student who brought in the alcohol SHOULD have been moved. She wasn't and that was something that we wanted, but they only had a choice of moving the offender to another room with a new roommate, and that could present even bigger problems if she did something worse. Would you want the school to move this person to your daughter's room when they knew that there might be a problem?</p>
<p>oldfort, who would like this situation? The school DID take the responsibility. There were some weeks of worry for me, but I felt that even if she DID try plant something in my D's room, the school was well aware of her problems after this, so I doubt that they would have fallen for the trick. My D and her roomie got to know the RA very well, and life moved on.</p>
<p>This is a dry campus, so that student did not really have anybody on her side. I think that on a campus where alcohol is accepted for over 21 and over students, it might be extremely difficult to report an alcohol violation without retribution from the drinkers. </p>
<p>Don't worry, all is well for my D. She has three great roommates this year. I don't know what happened to the girl from last year.</p>
<p>AimHigh,</p>
<p>I'm actually 33 and currently have a daughter in high school (yes I started young). I now how teenagers and young adults are...and I know how schools think. I also deal with typical college students ALL the time. I have also, as a student and school administrator, ratted out SEVERAL students and would do so again if I stumble upon underage drinking while I am roaming the campus. Rules are there for a reason and administrators cannot police every room 24/7. We would like to think that parents have well educated their children on the hazards of drinking and the bliss of making right choices, but alas, not all parents do. We also recgonize that even with the BEST of parents, these adults are now tasting freedom, some for the very first time, and tend to go against their very decent upbringing.</p>
<p>The reality is...if your stay at a college is in jeparody...you should do EVERYTHING possible to make sure you do not get busted for a friends rule violation.</p>
<p>Consolation,</p>
<p>I must have missed that thread...cause I believe that that student should have paid some serious penalties for his/her cheating. I've ratted out several fellow classmates for cheating...and drinking on campus...and underage drinking. I'm not going to face possible explusion for something I am not doing. If I make the choice to drink against policy(as I did at my prior college), and get caught, then I pay the penalty, but not for something someone else did.</p>
<p>Nikki, I am still against this type of police state mentality, but to each her own.</p>
<p>With regard to one of your previous statements to me, I am not at all worried about my children. They will do very well in the world, not ratting out their peers by running to <em>tattle</em> every time they do something wrong, but certainly willing to alert superiors when they see something ILLEGAL going on in the workplace. You think losing a job only involves the refusal to rat out someone? My ex, a CFO/VP, was fired because he wouldn't cook the books at a Fortune 200 company and nobody was interested in hearing him plead his case within the company. THAT is the real world.</p>
<p>The "Miss Landers, Theodore didn't do his homework and copied from Clarence" kind of a kid is someone I would worry more about, but that's just me.</p>
<p>Following is the (reasonable, I think) policy at my son's school, where he is a freshman with 3 roommates:</p>
<p>"Students who unlawfully distribute, possess or use controlled substances or alcohol in the workplace, on the campus, or as part of any University activity may be subject to discipline up to and including expulsion."</p>
<p>I am very glad that he won't be considered responsible for the illegal activity of others. I can't imagine a system where a non-using student has to be constantly afraid that a substance brought into his room by another person could be a cause for disciplinary action against the non-using student. I agree with the other posters who suggest that if authorities want to know who is drinking alcohol, the use of breathalizer would be the way to go. No words, lies, excuses, drama or shared guilt are necessary.</p>
<p>My kid does NOT need the distraction of having to be the alcohol police or worrying about being prosecuted for someone else's behavior.</p>
<p>firstly the RA sounds like a total d bag, secondly what school is this i need to remember to keep it off my list, thirdly there should be no such thing as dry campuses</p>
<p>NikkiiL writes:</p>
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<p>Really? Amazing to me. I don't think I ever felt compelled to rat out a classmate about anything, much less repeatedly. </p>
<p>I'm with AimHigh on this one. I don't think encouraging a police state mentality where people are encouraged to inform on each other is a healthy thing to do.</p>
<p>Although a "police state" as some have called it here may be the result(some would argue), but I don't think that's what is encouraged. I think what is encouraged is that those who are willing and able to choose to follow the rules can make it awkward for those who do not. If it becomes difficult enough, perhaps the behavior will stop. If enough people tell a guy "you can't drink here", then maybe he'll drink less, or less often, or at least not put innocent bystanders at risk of penalties. Imo that is a positive effect of peer pressure- discouraging improper behavior.</p>
<p>Heron, has everything worked out? Please update us!</p>
<p>Speaking of kids screwing up their lives:</p>
<p>DURHAM, N.H. - Nine members of a University of New Hampshire fraternity have been arrested following a drug raid at the fraternity house.</p>
<p>The nine men were arrested following a three-month long investigation by the the New Hampshire Attorney General’s Drug Task Force, the Durham Police department and the UNH Police Department. The arrests took place after warrants were served at the Sigma Beta fraternity house on Tuesday night.</p>
<p>University spokeswoman Kim Billings said that Sigma Beta has been put in interim suspension "pending an outcome from the UNH Office of Conduct and Mediation."</p>
<p>9</a> UNH students arrested after fraternity drug bust - BostonHerald.com</p>
<p>Shame it wasn't the hockey team, eh BCEagle?</p>
<p>Go BU! :D</p>
<p>I'm not a big hockey (or football) fan. I have a degree from BU too but never got into sports over there.</p>
<p>You went to BC and aren't into the sports? Wowzers.</p>
<p>Just tennis.</p>
<p>I spent a lot of time in the computer labs.</p>
<p>This is an eye-opening thread for me. There seem to be many of the same inane "zero tolerance" rules that made no sense in HS, only at the college level where they can be a permanent part of your record. </p>
<p>In college I was so naive. I didn't drink at all, yet I am sure I was at many parties and even dorm situations where people were. I just ignored them. One party there was even someone doing cocaine. I was shocked and could hardly believe my eyes, yet I didn't leave. I shudder to think if the place had been raided (it wasn't a LOUD party) I wouldn't even have had the brains to go out the back door.</p>
<p>Edit: I don't mean to imply zero tolerance of alcohol in HS is inane! I mean enforcement of rules sometimes doesn't conform to common sense. Like suspending a 2nd grader for carrying a plastic knife in their lunch.</p>