Drinking problem?

<p>So i am trying to decide about Bowdoin for next year. I really love it, but I read this article and was worried.</p>

<p>[Hello</a>, my name is Bowdoin and I have a drinking problem - The Bowdoin Orient](<a href=“http://orient.bowdoin.edu/orient/article.php?date=2010-02-26&section=2&id=5]Hello”>http://orient.bowdoin.edu/orient/article.php?date=2010-02-26&section=2&id=5) </p>

<p>is this true? especially the section about “ducks”? I want a relaxed social scene, not a pressure, totally drunk every weekend one. I drink a fair amount in high school, but i don’t want that to be the only thing i do to have fun. and i don’t want to drink just to get drunk.</p>

<p>can any current students weigh in on how true this is?</p>

<p>Hope we can hear from bowdoin students.</p>

<p>there are plenty of kids who don’t drink at bowdoin. there’s plenty of people in your boat. a few years ago the orient did a survey of how many kids had drank in high school before college and it was less than 30%.</p>

<p>most of the kids that go crazy drinking are kids who have never drank before and want to go crazy in college. the most well-balanced kids are the ones who have been drinking for a while.</p>

<p>you will find your balance for sure. to be honest though, you shouldn’t let drinking influence your decision to bowdoin. drinking is a college-related thing, not a bowdoin related thing. i’m sure everyone on the forums will back me up on this</p>

<p>Bidecision2,</p>

<p>I’m a rising senior at Bowdoin and was having a very similar set of thoughts as you when deciding where I wanted to go to school. I want to respond particularly to this part of your question:</p>

<p>I want a relaxed social scene, not a pressure, totally drunk every weekend one. I drink a fair amount in high school, but i don’t want that to be the only thing i do to have fun. and i don’t want to drink just to get drunk.</p>

<p>I would say that Bowdoin absolutley has a relaxed social scene, not a pressure, total drunk every weekend one. There is certainly drinking to be found at least 4 nights a week on campus if that’s what you’re looking for, but my freshman year my friends and I drank once or twice a weekend. Most of us didn’t have class on Fridays, so we generally had a low-key gathering Thursday nights to drink a few beers and watch the office, followed by scrubs. Sometimes after that we’d go out to a bigger gathering and other times we’d just sit in the room chatting all night.</p>

<p>Drinking is certainly not the only thing we do to have fun and I feel there are very few people at Bowdoin who just “drink to get drunk.” I didn’t drink in HS b/c I hated the way my classmates were drinking to get drunk, but I felt comfortable drinking at Bowdoin because the atmosphere was different.</p>

<p>After reading all that, you have thoughts/other questions for mercedesamg and myself?</p>

<p>Good luck with your decision! After going through this process myself, I’ve come to believe that there’s more than one school that any person can be happy at, but I know that I couldn’t be happy-ER at any place other than Bowdoin!</p>

<p>thanks laughkat and mercedes!</p>

<p>these were very helpful! in fact, i think I’m going to bowdoin next fall. i can’t wait. and i am happy to hear that there are a range of options. i am sure i can find people to hang out with who want to socialize the same ways and amount that I do. the article worried me but im sure its just part of college at any college.</p>

<p>p.s. i love the office and scrubs! sounds like a blast.</p>

<p>Despite laughcats response I find the article still unsettling as if I was somewhat fooled. I’m expecting incredibly intelligent and diverse people at Bowdoin. That’s not to say that only individuals who do not drink are interesting, but I mean the level of angst suggested in the basement section makes me sad. I experienced a similar situation at American University at a high school camp. Does the admissions committee not pick people that are past this perspective? I wasn’t expecting insecure women and cowardly men at such an institution that are sure to prey on those who do not participate, as their group think will make them view the outsider as someone who thinks he/she is above them by not drinking for such reasons. Of course these concerns may be unfounded, laughcat how much of the population drinks in such a way?</p>

<p>To answer your question directly, as to how many Bowdoin students drink the way that Steve described: I’d say the proportion is very little. I’m willing to say that the percentage of students who black out more than 5 times a semester is less than 10%. Bowdoin students like to drink, but it is more often about having a good time than just drinking to get drunk. For instance, I’ve had a bunch of “beer club” parties with my friends, where we each bring a different micro-brewery 6 pack to trade with each other.</p>

<p>As for the rest of my ramblings about Steve’s article and Bowdoin’s drinking culture:</p>

<p>Steve (the author) is a good friend of mine. His columns in the Orient usually revolve around political themes and he enjoys using his column to make slightly outlandish statements, fully expecting letters to the editor in angry/upset/insulted response to his musings. In other words, I think Steve’s article needs to be taken with a grain of salt.</p>

<p>In my reading, the point of his article was more about changing Bowdoin’s hard alcohol policy ban than anything else. Bowdoin has always had a great relationship between students and security, with the philosophy being that security will tolerate safe drinking among students as long as it is not out of control. The point of the hard alcohol ban was that drinking hard alcohol increases the chances that you’re drinking will become unhealthy and/or unsafe. Steve’s point was that the ban is counterproductive and actually leads to more clandestine/unhealthy drinking than would otherwise exist on campus.</p>

<p>Particular points in his article that I think are overblown:
“In all Bowdoin students there exists a sort of social angst. Do I belong here? Do I look OK? Am I smart enough, pretty enough or rich enough?” I think it’s fair to say that students have these thoughts but not that they drive them to drink excessively every weekend. Also, I don’t think these “angsty” questions are unique to Bowdoin students… </p>

<p>“blacking out, drinking to the point of unconsciousness, is commonly thought virtuous”. I disagree. There may be a small minority of students who feel this way but “commonly” seriously exaggerates that small sector of the population.</p>

<p>I also wanted to challenge your statement that “their groupthink will make them view the outsider as someone who thinks he/she is above them by not drinking for such reasons.” One of my best friends freshman year didn’t drink in hs and still wasn’t comfortable drinking when she got to college. She hung out with us while we watched Scrubs/the Office and came with us to social house parties and there were no hard feelings or resentments on my part or hers for the fact that I was drinking and she wasn’t. More than anything else, you will find Bowdoin students to be open to other people’s decisions… “Hey man if you don’t want to drink that’s no problem.”</p>

<p>The reality of the situation is this: When you get to college, no matter how well adjusted you are before you get there there is going to be some anxiety and insecurity. There will also be drinking at whatever college you choose, and there will be a small minority that drink in excess. I have found Bowdoin students more responsible with drinking than I have at other colleges that I visited both as a prospective student and visiting friends once we were both in college.</p>

<p>Thanks laughkat, I apologize if my words seemed extreme, I just wanted strong answers, which yours were. Its also just the fact that many posts lately have been about this issue and so the possibility of the worse seemed to escalate for me. Thanks for proving my concerns are unnecessary.</p>