<p>cigarettes are for pussies... cigars are for real men</p>
<p>so is beer. Pot is a bit meh.</p>
<p>What will you get punished for more ?
underage drinking or smoking pot ? (i'm int'l so forgive me if this is a silly question)</p>
<p>If you are caught with pot on a first-time offense, if you hire a decent lawyer you will just get community service.</p>
<p>ok... and what about underage drinking ?</p>
<p>jimbob, where are you from, lawyers!!! in CA, for pot, if under an ounce you probably won't even see a court, it's a fine. for small amounts, say a gram, the cop will probably just take it and smoke it in his car later.
for drinking you'd probably have to do community service and what not, maybe probation.
and groenveld, amen bro, a good cigar rocks the cazbah, avo #7's!</p>
<p>erilsgod, you make a good point in that pot is a strange commodity for capitalism. especially since its something of a communal culture. but right now, prohibition only drives the cost up; people who smoke don't smoke less because its illegal, i don't think that would matter much.
What would change is that people who smoke on a regular basis would grow their own, which means there'd be no profit off it, since you could smoke your own stuff and share it with your friends.
I don't think that's such a bad idea, people sharing with eachother.</p>
<p>hmmm... sharing ...... sounds like communism !!! arghh</p>
<p>The severity of the prosecution for marijuana offenses varies widely depending on where you are. For example, if you're caught with a little bit in Austin,TX, APD will often let it slide (though they've gotten stricter in recent years.) But if you're riding through neighboring Williamson County and you get caught even with "marijuana residue" as a UT football player recently was, you're pretty screwed.</p>
<p>i think both are pretty nasty</p>
<p>I agree about the legalization of marijuana never really happening, at least not soon. You can literally grow that stuff anywhere (and I know kids who do), you won't get a good amount if you grow it in your kitchen or something, but you can still grow shwag pretty decently. If they legalized it the sale of seeds would skyrocket initially, but then people would literally make rooms for themselves and grow their own and privately distribute. The only way the government could profit is by issuing high cost growing permits and selling permits (kind of like alcohol actually).</p>
<p>And for the person who said legalization would be bad because people would literally be high all day then. Amsterdam saw no increase in marijuana consumption after they legalized, just an increase in tourism. People won't smoke more if it is legal, they will just be able to buy it legally in a store. And secondly the people who get high all day would be like the people who get drunk all day, non-functioning, it would probably be a small problem at worst.</p>
<p>And I agree, cigars are great. Smoked a couple of cubans on my spring break, very nice. Have to indulge all the vices on vacation.</p>
<p>no time to read all of this so im posting to save it :)</p>
<p>does anyone know about what will happen to my friend's kid who was arrested by campus police for smoking pot in his dorm room? NY state...first offense..parents are so mad they don't want to help him at all, making him pay for his own lawyer etc
apparently if the charge is too severe he can loose eligibility for federal student loans and aid??? misdemeanor vs criminal charge?
I feel bad for him, but parents have their own problems and just can't deal with it. I know zero about laws in that state or even this one for possession.</p>
<p>My roommate does both. Walked in on him while he was dealing weed; the roomed smelled like s h i t.</p>
<p>alcohol is worse physically.</p>
<p>THC does no physical damage in and of itself. It is VERY mentally addcitve to some. Marijuana is harmless to about 80% of the population. For what ever reason, those with pre-existing mental health problems get very screwed up by smoking weed. Normal healthy folks don't seem to have much trouble controlling it. </p>
<p>The govt. overstates the dangers of marijuana for the reasons stated. College NORML types understate the dangers of pot, since they are largely mental and thus more subjective, and pot heads tend to be delusional about its effect on their life.</p>
<p>Like the kid from the Netherlans said, most people in Holland see pot as much dirtier than alcohol even though its legal. Marijuana has become such a politcal issue in the states that it's hard to get accurate information from either side.</p>
<p>Also, I hate rich college kids who think they're impervious to the effects of drugs. To those who said you like coke and use perscription drugs to get through class, enjoy a miserable existence that ends with an intervention or otherwsie be a crackhead. Plenty of people who went to top colleges are in homeless shelters now because of substance problems. Coke and oxycontin are not drugs that happy responsible people use.</p>
<p>And, as i've stated before, I know all this from personal experience. I've been in jail and plenty of my childhood friends are dead or in jail at this moment.</p>
<p>^I don't know whether (I want) to believe that or not.</p>
<p>Personally, I'm against both. I just feel like I can do other legal stuff to release stress or have fun. Not really worth the risk to me. Just my lifestyle choice I guess. The one thing I really don't like is when people just get so overly-promotional of their habits to the point where it's just to get attention. And also of course, no one wants to have opinions forced on them or be condescended for his or her beliefs. In almost any situation, someone who tells you you're wrong or pressures you into doing something you really just don't want to is foolish.</p>
<p>I used to be really gung-ho against people who drank or smoked underage but as I matured I realized that it's just something I don't want to be around. Everybody makes their own choices.</p>
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<p>Nah I had that typed on another board, but its good to smite all nay sayers :p</p>
<p>I came onto this sit as a mature student. no reason to make things up. Plenty of the parents will tell you the same thing, but most 18 yr olds don't listen.</p>
<p>I'd just like to mention the fact that if you're convicted of a drug-related crime, you will receive NO FEDERAL FINANCIAL AID. But I suppose if you have the money to support recreational use of drugs and to gamble with your grades/future, you don't care that much about financial aid.</p>
<p>trellily- that's what I was asking about in my post above...but is it true in NY that if it is a misdemeanor (not criminal possession), there is no effect on aid?</p>
<p>you guys might want to research that if you think there are no consequences to smoking pot</p>