<p>i said there's no medical use for marijuana that alternative drugs cannot provide.</p>
<p>nowhere in my posts did i say marijuana was addictive</p>
<p>and the co-ops that provide medical marijuana in those "few" states are now in the proccess of being shut down, and the providers are awaiting trial to be prosecuted.</p>
<p>i'm california born and raised and i go to a UC. yes, there's a lot of drug use, but there's every combination of people here.<br>
-the straight edge kids who don't do any drugs or alcohol
-people who party but don't drink or do drugs
-people who party and drink, but don't do drugs
-people who party and do drugs but not alcohol
-people who don't party but smoke pot recreationally
-people who do everything
-any other combination i didn't mention</p>
<p>it's one of those things that is there if you want it, but no one forces you to smoke/drink/do drugs.</p>
<p>the drug of choice here is pot (really heavily) but i know people who also do speed, coke, and crack. doesn't mean i have to do it, nor does it mean we can't be friends.</p>
<p>anyone ever done salvia :D</p>
<p>no.. but i've tried saliva =)</p>
<p>lol everyone i've seen that call themselves 'straight-edge' have been the biggest hypocrites i've known, so i'm not sure if i would go that far.</p>
<p>I dont see why everyone thinks there are more people who do drugs in CA than anywhere else, but whatever... continue the debate.
Marijuana is addictive; perhaps not as much as some other things, but it definitely is. Anyone who says otherwise is smoking... well, marijuana :-P</p>
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<p>OMG-OrZ!!!1! LOLZZ!!!!!111!!1</p>
<p>I say we bomb California off of the U.S. Those druggies are ruining our reputation. Oh, and by the way, drugs are the shiz, they can boost you from a 3.0 to a 4.0 in about 10 days.</p>
<p>i hate cookies:eek:... especially monsters that tend to eat cookies.</p>
<p>patiently waiting, i think you need a little wake up call. im not trying to bash you, but please try to be a little open minded. people from texas smoke a lot of pot (trust me i know), people from ohio smoke a lot of pot. people from california smoke a lot of pot</p>
<p>how does the fact that people smoke pot bother you? they usually arent destructive, they dont get in your way, they dont really do anything. believe me, at UCSB there is so much drinking and smoking pot that you wont even notice</p>
<p>i realize there are colleges where pot is more available than alcohol and vice versa, but i would say at the major colleges in california, its about even. california is an incredible state, you will have skiing, swimming, and surfing at your fingertips year round, while im freezing my ass off at colgate. dont stereotype the whole state, there are some great people there</p>
<p>for the record, i drink fairly often and smoke weed occasionally, and have never had a problem being exposed to or using "hard" drugs. (it is possible)</p>
<p>i'm not trying to stereotype, that is why i am asking the question on here. i don't want to stereotype and i have always been an open minded kinda girl. i don't have anything against potheads, i know some myself. however, i would perfer to go to a school where 20% of the student population does pot instead of 40%. it's just my personal preferance. i'm sorry if i offended anyone. =/</p>
<p>dont believe statistics, 57% of them are made up</p>
<p>what schools are you looking at in particular? in california, ill try my best to lay out the big ones in terms of social life</p>
<p>USD - Catholic, alcoholics. probably not so much pot, but its definetly not hard to find. big party school</p>
<p>USC - lots of frats, lots of drinking, good football team, good school. pot is probably the same as above</p>
<p>UCSB - LOTS of drinking, LOTS of pot, but a certain kind of person looks at UCSB. these are the people that drink a lot and smoke a lot of pot. all kinds of people, massive school, beautiful campus, on the beach, so you can find whatever you want. beer, liquor, pot</p>
<p>those are the 3 i know the most about. again, you wont find many big schools that have an overwhelming population of pot heads vs. drunkards. schools like that are found in the north usually and have like 300 students</p>
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<p>hahahahahaaa...that's the funniest thing i've heard in this thread...it was meant to be a joke right??....if so..LOLOLOLL</p>
<p>cookie_monster, it wasnt funny the first time you did it in this thread, move along now</p>
<p>ok, here is my last post to this thread because it has gotten waaay off topic but I dont want to leave opposing arguments left open. (By the way, I won't be reading this again so don't expect another repsonse).</p>
<p>To AceRockolla: You used the fact that marijuana was a schedule 1 drug as a negative point so I refuted why marijuana was incorrectly identified by the US govt as a schedule 1 drug.<br>
All Medical Marijuana clubs are NOT being shut down. There are many medical marijuana clubs within an hour of my house (I know someone who uses marijuana legally and he gets his stuff from the club). There are some headshops and clubs being shut down for illegally proving information about where to buy marijuana. This was an operation done by Ashcroft called Operation Pipe Dreams. But in no way are all clubs being/ or in the proccess of being shut down. In fact, there is legislation trying to be passed to further decriminalize marijuana, and further spread medical marijuana to other states.
Marijuana provides health benefits that other drugs also provide, BUT it doesn't have the nasty side effects of those manufactured drugs. Side effects include extreme drowsiness, headaches, etc. That is why people want to use marijuana. They don't want to feel lke a zombie just to rid themselves of pain.</p>
<p>To joev: I don't know what you mean by fried, but I assure you that marijuana causes no brain damage and thc does not kill brain cells. This is a myth that is currently being spread by companies like DARE and even highschool and middleschool teachers. Marijuana doesn't just "help you see past things", which is competely subjective. There are actual medicinal properties that it posess's. You can see my previous posts or just google "medical marijuana" or something similiar to that.</p>
<p>To Icarus: Marijuana is not addictive. Nicotine and Caffiene are addictive. Marijuana is habit forming. I'll provide an example to both to show you the difference.
My brother plays video games on his computer all day. If he is somehow blocked from playing games, such as our power going out he gets very antsy. He is bored and just wants to play video games. But after a while he will become occupied with something and forget about playing video games. Give it a few weeks and he won't even think about the games anymore. This is an example of something that is habit forming. You do something everyday, and it becomes part of your routine. To say he was physically addicting is incorrect because he doesn't show serious signs of withdrawl. Marijuana is just like that.
Cigarette smokers on the other hand are physically addicted to nicotine. They not only get antsy when they stop, their bodies react chemically. They need the drug to keep them going. It's a complete physcial dependence.<br>
Marijuana is not physcially addictive, and no credible information will tell you otherwise. Studies done by the US have proved this.</p>
<p>thanks for reading. if you want more information try a site like <a href="http://www.norml.org%5B/url%5D">www.norml.org</a>. look at the facts and make up your own mind. but look at the FACTS, not speculations.
peace</p>
<p>Yes because the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws is going to be an unbiased source of facts lol.</p>
<p>since cali is "pretty close" to canada, where they have the BC bud(best stuff in the world,top grade m,j,) their will be a lot of drug use, havwe u ever read the news/watched tv, cali is like a freak show, they have druggies,whores,women with fake breasts,corrupt cops everything and anything you can think of they got</p>
<p>OMG..that "see beyond things" etc. is so true..I mean..I feel that but I guess alot potheads do..(thought it was only me)</p>
<p>All the colleges in Ca have high usage of drugs and alcohol (higher than the general population of California). All colleges have higher percentages of drug and alcohol use. The reasons being is because we are young, typically more affluent, and curious. Thus what one gets from coast to coast is drug use. Whether usage moral or not is really too subjective. I personally believe that drug use itself is not immoral, but the issue of morals comes into play when considering the actions of the individual. Usage itself should then be legal.</p>
<p>BTW, I was top 2% of class and smoked weed as well as drank. Moderation is the key.</p>
<p>Yeah, it's definitely not just California who has high pot usage and alcohol consumption. But I do know that the stereotype and other misconceptions are out there. I go to Georgetown University - Jesuit university and one of the pretigious American universities. Four guys a few floors under me smoke pot on a daily basis. And a lot of the students with high grades smoke pot, as well. Drinking is my school's drug of choice, though. </p>
<p>hohner - Your arguments were very good ones. After arguing with some of my friends about the negatives of marijuana (illegal, could lead to truly damaging "hard" drug use, etc.), I can't think of a good reason why it shouldn't be legalized. I realize that it doesn't kill brain cells but people sure as hell act like dumbasses when they are high. Not a great argument, I know. As much as the facts agree with legalizing marijuana, in my gut I feel that it's wrong to smoke pot. There's nothing much beyond that gut feeling that I can dispute with.</p>
<p>no intelligent being, pot smoking or not, should want marijuana to be legalized. people actually enjoy getting hooked up through dealers. if legalized, the governments just going to jack up the prices like they do with cigarrettes.</p>