Dry campus?

<p>While we’re on vices, just kidding, wanted to find out about the City of Tuscaloosa, as well as the campus’s, so called blue laws.</p>

<p>We have friends whose kids go to Missississippi State, and have been told by them that it is in a dry county. For instance, they could not purchase liquor on Sunday. </p>

<p>As Alabama and Auburn are in what many would call the Bible Belt, was wondering if they had similar laws surrounding those campuses.</p>

<p>I am assuming that alcohol is not allowed on campus, because of the age limit, but wondering how accessible it is outside of campus. Again, taking the age limit out of the equation.</p>

<p>i think tuscaloosa is wet… up here in our county it is dry which means NO liquor or beer any day of the week…have to do a “border crossing” LOL</p>

<p>You can’t buy alcohol on Sunday’s but Tuscaloosa (and the university campus itself) is wet.</p>

<p>I am assuming that alcohol is not allowed on campus, because of the age limit,</p>

<p>Like many schools, those who are over 21 can usually drink in their housing - unless their dorm specifically prohibits it. </p>

<p>It can be confusing. My nephew is at Vandy which advertises as being a dry campus, so my sis thought that meant no alcohol is allowed. It just means it’s not sold on campus and those under 21 can’t have it in their dorms. At Vandy (and maybe at UA), no alcohol is permited in frosh dorms no matter the students’ ages. That may be the same at UA.</p>

<p>Schools that have grad housing, and profs living on campus, etc, really can’t have “no alcohol allowed anywhere on campus no matter who you are and how old you are” rules. A city may be dry on Sundays, but that doesn’t mean that you can’t drink in your home on Sundays. </p>

<p>It’s confusing.</p>

<p><a href=“and%20the%20university%20campus%20itself”>I</a> is wet. *</p>

<p>NO, the campus is dry (no alcohol is sold on campus or in the stadium). The fact that alcohol can be drunk on campus (by those who are over 21) does not mean it’s wet. For instance, dry cities and counties don’t sell, but people can buy elsewhere and drink in their homes. That doesn’t make those cities or counties “wet.” </p>

<p>Wet really has to do with the ability to buy, not possess or drink.</p>

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<p>The counties in Alabama that have more transplants seem to be wet. </p>

<p>In my county, we used to not be able to buy on Sundays. Now we can.</p>

<p>From the UA website…</p>

<p>You are responsible for upholding federal, state, and local laws dealing with alcohol, tobacco <a href=“smoking%20is%20not%20permitted%20in%20any%20residence%20hall”>B</a>** and other drugs. **Simply put, alcohol is not permitted for students less than 21 years of age, ** and illegal drugs are not permitted by anyone within the residence halls.</p>

<p>These Community Living Standards were developed to help provide a safe and secure community. The following violations compromise the safety and security of residents may result in appropriate disciplinary sanctions, including up to contract termination.</p>

<p>4.1 – Purchase, possession, or consumption of alcohol by a person under the age of 21
4.2 – Possession or consumption in a common area of a residence hall, including but not limited to lounges, hallways, stairwells, balconies, laundry rooms, and study areas
4.3 – Sale or distribution of alcohol by a person over 21 years of age to a person under the age of 21
4.4 – Use of common sources of alcohol, including but not limited to kegs, party balls, and punch bowls
4.5 – Sale of alcoholic beverages on campus, including indirect sales (i.e collection of money at a campus gathering to be used to defray the cost of alcoholic beverages provided at the gathering)</p>

<p>Hm, I’ve always assumed that because alcohol can be brought on campus that that makes campus wet. Oh well.</p>

<p>So no beer is sold at the football games? </p>

<p>With honors housing, if there are suitemates over 21, does that mean that there can be alcohol in the suites?</p>

<p>Are there RAs that do checks for “contraband”?</p>

<p>When asking for housing preferences, can you not only ask for non smokers, but non drinkers as well? Or least ask for under 21 roommates?</p>

<p>Is honors housing segregated by class level?</p>

<p>Do they try to put freshmen together as suite mates?</p>

<p>No beer is sold at football games or on campus.</p>

<p>Suitemates who are over 21 can have alcohol in their rooms. I don’t know if they can drink in their shared living rooms, since that isn’t a hall common area.</p>

<p>If you want to avoid that, have your child select freshman housing. Very, very few freshman are going to be over 21 and in honors housing. </p>

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<p>*Is honors housing segregated by class level?</p>

<p>Do they try to put freshmen together as suite mates? *</p>

<p>Yes, for those who are in freshman honors housing. No, for those who are in regular honors housing.</p>

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<p>When asking for housing preferences, can you not only ask for non smokers, but non drinkers as well? Or least ask for under 21 roommates?</p>

<p>I don’t think so. But, this wouldn’t work anyway. Kids who are under 21 are not going to put on their college housing that they do drink. So, the answers would be meaningless. </p>

<p>As for smokers, since smoking is not allowed in or near housing, it’s not a question that is meaningful to UA. From UA’s point of view, if a student isn’t allowed to smoke in the buildings, it shouldn’t matter to any other students if that student smokes elsewhere. </p>

<p>If UA were to ask that question for the purposes of putting all smokers together, that would just cause those smokers to attempt to smoke in their suites - since everyone would be a smoker.</p>

<p>I wouldn’t worry about cigarette smoking and honors housing. Not many in honors smoke anyway.</p>

<p>Well, there are no “Freshman dorms” per se at Alabama. The new dorms are mostly freshmen, but there are quite a few upperclassmen in them, and there’s even a senior in mine. Ridgecrest South probably doesn’t have any upperclassmen this year but they will next year.</p>

<p>You’re from Louisiana, correct? I remember that gas station in La. had liquor for sale. In Ala., you can only buy liquor in state-controlled liquor stores. Well, actually there are private package stores, but they buy their goods from the state, so they are always more expensive than ABC (Alcoholic Beverage Control).</p>

<p>Well, there are no “Freshman dorms” per se at Alabama.</p>

<p>Ridgecrest South honors was supposed to be freshman only, but I heard because of vacancies, they allowed other students to come in (mostly on the top floors)</p>

<p>I don’t know what the plan is for next year for freshman only housing. You may need to call Housing and ask if they have a plan.</p>

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<p>Feeno…the gas station by my house in the Huntsville are sells hard liquor in half of the store (sep entrance).</p>

<p>However, I miss being able to buy alcohol at Costco and Sams Club for good prices like we can in Calif.</p>

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<p>Montegut,
I don’t think it’s possible to prevent a college kid from being exposed to alcohol use by others, without going to a strict bible college.</p>

<p>Speaking of Dry or Wet we are attending the Capstone Scholars day on 1/16. My wife and DD are attending while my son and I will be trying to find a place to watch the playoffs. any good suggestions.</p>

<p>Husband is not happy that we’ll be doing college visits during the playoffs, although the Saints may be one and done. </p>

<p>I do know there is a MugShots in Tuscaloosa, as my nephew worked there after the Storm. I used to think it was a coffeehouse, but found out later it was a bar with food. The Mississippi one boasts the best burgers in the state. Anyway, where there’s a bar, there’s usually a TV tuned to a football game. </p>

<p>Wow, sounds like Capstone is going to be packed!</p>

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<p>I think the key is that the two halves are separate. They probably have separate licenses as well even though they share a building.</p>

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<p>There are other considerations to these sort of preferences. For example, one may have an allergy to smoke residues that are found in smokers’ clothing and hair, etc.</p>

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<p>Mugshots, Buffalo Wild Wings, Wing’s Restaurant, Wilhagen’s Sports Grille are the main places to go.</p>

<p>Just sucks that you won’t be able to have a beer with your meal while watching the games.</p>

<p>Perhaps change is coming…not in time for playoffs, but possibly in the near future…</p>

<p>Monday, December 21, 2009 - Tuscaloosa Mayor Walt Maddox asked the delegation to allow a referendum to allow alcohol sales on Sundays in Tuscaloosa County. Sales would be limited to the hours between noon and 10 p.m. and be allowed at restaurants, events, hotels and stores. Bars would not be allowed to open.</p>

<p>Not allowing Sunday alcohol sales has hurt the city’s tourism industry, Maddox said.</p>

<p>“We have several restaurant chains that will not even look at Tuscaloosa for that reason,” Maddox said. “This would be directly geared to the hospitality industry.”</p>

<p>When cities/counties start seeing loss of potential tax revenue from restaurants (or hotel chains) that won’t consider T-town without a change in the Sunday blue law, that sometimes changes minds. </p>

<p>That’s what happened in my county. The Sunday blue laws went “bye bye” and more national restaurants moved in.</p>

<p>Well, this is Alabama and the conservatives are in control, so don’t expect anything to change soon. This is not even close to the first time that city leaders have tried to get Sunday alcohol sales in Tuscaloosa. They have faced many hurdles, including the opposition of local legislators like Gerald Allen (who two or three years ago tried to pass a bill banning books in school and university libraries that made any reference to homosexuals or homosexuality) and Robert Bentley (who for example opposed the Gourmet Beer Bill until it finally passed). Incidentally, Bentley is running for governor of Alabama. Though just these two cannot be blamed - local voters have voted non-binding referendums on Sunday alchohol sales before. Sorry for the OT rant. Basically, don’t expect a buy a beer on a Sunday in Tuscaloosa for a long time (except if you are a member of a country club).</p>

<p>I remember hearing that anybody 21 or over can drink in their dorm rooms, regardless if the roommates were of age or not.</p>

<p>Johnr441, you can drive up to Jefferson or Shelby counties and go to a bar there. The nearest bars are would be about 30 miles north in Bessemer if you really wanted a drink on Sunday.</p>

<p>i agree with feenotype, my county has always been dry… every county around it is wet…tax money is going to all the other counties, just do a border crossing (right on county lines, multiple package stores) and you will see most of the cars have this county’s tags. no good restaurants will come in here, no industry… as nothing to help bring people to it. no matter how many times it is discussed, it will never come to a vote here. at least tuscaloosa is kind of wet LOL</p>