<p>This Cornell/Duke rivalry has been going on for ages.</p>
<p>I find it funny how they say we're prestigious, because of our basketball team, yet they use the "Ivy League" reputation to promote their school--priceless.</p>
<p>No offense to those Cornellians, but their posts wreak of an 'inferiority complex'</p>
<p>wow lol, this is kinda funny, I havent seen such a heated thread (or more accurately, a link to a heated thread) involving Duke b4.</p>
<p>DMC just made my day with his last post</p>
<p>Duke is alot better!! go Bluedevils!!</p>
<p>I believe wholeheartedly that Duke is better as well. While I won't be attending either, Duke is an outstanding school with a wealth of resources. The bs they propagate about Cornell being better in the eyes of internationals is merely a function of school age. Duke is growing much better and attracts a more qualified student body on the whole.</p>
<p>woot woot to independent posters agreeing with dukes superiority</p>
<p>I don't attend either but these threads depress me. How can one be objectively "better" than the other? Thats a ridiculous statement. If you think that the difference between a Cornell degree and a Duke degree is going to matter more than your grades, recommendations, or the kind of person you are to an employer, then you are in for a surprise when you graduate. I find that school bashing is nearly always due to insecurity though not always having to do with the school thats being bashed. Either way, both sides here have it in spades.</p>
<p>Smells like school spirit to me!</p>
<p>Right well, school spirit is about loving your school, not putting down others.</p>
<p>MoatToMoat: The point has already been made that there is no difference between a Cornell and Duke degree; nevertheless, comments were exchanged due an encounter that has been building up for quite sometime.</p>
<p>Actually, one can argue that spirit--whether athletic or collegiate--has involved asserting yourself above your "competitor". How many games have you seen where enthusiastic fans heckle the opposing team? Or declare that they are "better than them[the opposing team]" regardless of what statistics show?</p>
<p>Examples of this behavior: Harvard vs. Yale; Princeton v. UPenn; Dartmouth v. Princeton (I think) </p>
<p>While it may--in your opinion--be malicious or a display lacking of class, these acts are often--and will continue--to be viewed as an expression of team spirit.</p>
<p>Good Day.</p>
<p>Well because things are viewed as an expression of team spirit doesn't mean they actually are one. Additionally, I think there's a difference between rooting against the Yankees and putting down someone's school, especially when they are extra-sensitive about it (something that happened between Duke and Cornell in the Cornell forum).</p>
<p>MoattoMoat, what are you talking about</p>
<p>Its all about putting down the other school, if it makes your own school look better in comparison.
Thats why people have "UNC" or "Columbia" or "Lafayette" sucks at sports games.</p>
<p>And we were just trying to correct the falacies of some people who don't know what they are talking about. when someone makes fun of your own school, you respond in kind. thats what rivalries and arguments are about when it comes to this stuff.</p>
<p>The Brown board was like that alot in April, believe me (looking at your post-history)</p>
<p>MoattoMoat,</p>
<p>While I read your comments, I cannot help but be perplexed by its relevance to the "war" yesterday. Every single one of us LAUDED Cornell unremittingly and we were still attacked. It is a prodigious inferiority complex and insecurity that was elicited through that entire discussion. Even whilst parrying insults, I still kept my reverance towards Cornell vocal.</p>
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<p>Well because you view that these things are not an expression of team spirt doesn't mean that they actually are not.</p>
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<p>Putting down another's school--no matter how you view it--has--and will always--be viewed as team spirit. My examples were not of Yankees vs. Red Sox or Spurs v. Lakers--these were of actual schools who put down one another.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, I, myself, nor DMC, never disrespected Cornell--I merely responded to the ludicrous charges leveled at Duke and the incessant stupidity of an individual.</p>
<p>Let us not forget which board struck first as well. One personal incendiary comment by sports684 incited my ire.</p>
<p>thethoughtprocess - There is a difference between a sports game and a message board for people trying to decide where to spend their next four years. And there is a difference between honestly discussing important differences between schools and just saying that Cornell sucks no matter what. I wasn't on these boards in April, so I can't really comment on what the Brown board was like. I have a sense that its more of a CC phenomenon than really a reflection of what each school is like.</p>
<p>DMC - I didn't really follow much of what was going on in that thread, so I may have been wrong. Either way, someone was bashing someone. ehhhhhhhhh I forget. That kid seemed a little crazy anyway.</p>
<p>majay - Yes, I know that just because I view it that way doesn't mean that it actually is. That's why we are having this whole discussion. I advanced a point. You replied, not with contradictory evidence or logic, but by saying that some people view it differently. I responded by saying that just because others view it differently, doesn't mean that they are correct. Some people hold the view that, for example, cheating on a test is ok. That doesn't mean that its a correct view. You replied by using that same logic against me. However, I never stated that I was correct because people viewed it the same way that I did. In fact, I never stated why I was correct at all (which was an error but oh well). It would have made more sense for you to challenge WHY I said what I said, rather than just argue that there are people who disagree with me. I go to Brown, so I guess my rival is officially Columbia, though it really depends on the sport. So I root against Columbia at sports games, etc, but I would never say the sort of stuff that has been said on this thread about Cornell. Our ultimate frisbee rival would probably be Stanford (they beat us at nationals last year, we beat them this year), and its the same deal. Hope I cleared stuff up.</p>
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<p>What really has been said? What's really been said is akin to:</p>
<p>"Duke's superior"; "Cornell sucks"; "Duke owns Cornell"; "I smell 'inferiority complex"; "We're more prestigious". Personally, I find these things mild in comparison to what could have been said. The very things have been said by Cornell of Duke...yet we are now being lectured by you on what is appropriate. Moreover, these comments were sparked by a few Cornellians, who are not representative of the institution. Yet, retaliation by Duke students is not surprising. In my opinion, responding to unsubstantiated allegations is appropriate under the right conditions. I tried the "voice of reason" approacch, if you noticed earlier in one of those posts, and I get slap in the face. </p>
<p>Anyway, the "war" is over, and I feel it best that this "morally reprehensible" experience never occurs again--assuming nothing occurs to spark such an event.</p>
<p>Good luck on your endeavors at Brown.</p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
<p>Hey don't think I was just going after Duke. Its a problem with all the boards. And the king of it is our old friend Byerly, who has nothing to do with either Duke or Cornell.</p>
<p>Yeah Byerly seems to enjoy putting down the other Ivy Leagues. Is he an incoming 09er?</p>
<p>No, I think he graduated in the late 80's...if I recall properly, best to ask him I suppose</p>