EA prospects: check out this Observer article

Colleges and Universities A-Z University of Notre Dame
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<p>Today's ND SMC Observer online has an article about Notre Dame's intention to continue using Early Action in admissions. The statistics presented were impressive: 47% of EA applicants were accepted, 22% were legacies, the average ACT score for EA acceptees was 32, and all applicants accepted EA were ranked in the top 3.7% of their class. </p>

<p>The stats and article are on the front page of the website:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.ndsmcobserver.com/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.ndsmcobserver.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Hope it helps.</p>

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<p>Notre Dame has never been a university to follow the Ivy tide. Most of the major Ivy's were at one time religious-affiliated schools which eventually went secular. Even some Catholic universities have pretty well abandoned their religious roots. Notre Dame does not, despite the fact that elites who rate colleges find the strong identification with Roman Catholicism to somehow be a negative in terms of intellectual heft and diversity. The university has not adopted co-ed dorms despite a national trend to the contrary. Why would they change an EA policy that works? Don't see them changing the legacy factor either...</p>

<p>The willingness to maintain its identity is, in my opinion, one of Notre Dame's greatest strengths, as shining a beacon as the floodlit statue of Mary atop the Dome.</p>

<p>As per early action being advantageous to the wealthy, I don't see how one reaches that conclusion! While I am a Notre Dame alum, I am middle class at best (yes, such a demographic does exist). Our son is an ROTC student who was admitted EA, thus ensuring that he could secure a place in the Navy ROTC program that may well not have been there had he not been admitted until April. Our daughter is applying EA this fall--we need the lead time for the money. When you've got to scrape together tuition, room & board and fees that are nearly as much on an annual basis as your annual income--you'd better start scrambling for money fast. When you are also sending other kids to Catholic elementary or high schools, the need to find money is even more acute.</p>

<p>Why is it that when Harvard decides to do something, it is then considered to be the industry standard? Sorry, I'm just not that impressed...</p>

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<p>"As per early action being advantageous to the wealthy, I don't see how one reaches that conclusion!"</p>

<p>I think the school administrators made it pretty clear that they DISAGREED with Harvard's assertion that it helps the advantaged. "If they understand the process, they'll make the correct choice." Are you disagreeing with the contents of the article or just the nationwide reactions from the universities? just checking...</p>

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<p>ALL of them were in the top 3.7 % of the class......WOW</p>

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<p>That is why it has such a high acceptance rate, though I do question a bit the word ALL but if it is accurate, it makes it pretty clear.</p>

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<p>I think the ALL is suppose to be average.........atleast I hope so</p>

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<p>I am disagreeing with the reactions of Harvard, Princeton and those in the press who have been covering this issue. I am in complete agreement with Notre Dame. I don't have any contention with the article.</p>

<p>I am just amazed at times by the follower mentality of academia, which at times reminds me of an adolescent clique. One of the things I respect most about Notre Dame is its willingness as an institution to march to its own drummer, in the face of an academic culture that seems to march in lockstep.</p>

<p>I just grow so weary of the Ivy elites...can't help it!</p>

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<p>I don't think "all" is right, either. Could be a misquote or misinterpretation. Just doesn't seem possible...</p>

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<p>I wonder, when the article talks about perfect SAT scores, if they mean a perfect 2400, or the old 1600? If it's the former, wow! I thought I heard it was much more difficult to get the 2400, which makes sense.</p>

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<p>I'm sure they mean 800 CR/800 M. They don't even count the Writing section.</p>

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<p>It is out of 1600 unfortunately. I wish ND was more accessible than it is!</p>

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<p>The idea that all students were in the top 3.7% is definitely incorrect. I was admitted EA last year, and I was only in the top 8-10% of my class.</p>

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<p>This article actually makes me feel more confident!</p>

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<p>Wonder if there are any perfect scores they have turned down?</p>

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<p>I recently attended an event where an ND adcom was talking and she said that they do turn down perfect scores every year.</p>

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<p>There is a significant difference between EA (as ND offers) and ED. </p>

<p>ED is binding; you may only apply to 1 ED school, if you are accepted, you are committed to attending without regard to final costs, and you must withdraw all other applications. ED is a great one-way contract in favor of the colleges.</p>

<p>Under EA, you may apply to more than 1 EA school. You may submit as many RD applicatons as you want, as you only need to make a commitment by May 1.</p>

<p>I don't see that EA disadvantages anyone very much, and none of the multiple choice EA schools so far have decided to discontinue EA.</p>

<p>EA is good in that it may reduce the total number of applications being submitted and it spreads out the workload at the schools in returning decisions.</p>

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<p>Alyssienn....
How does the article make you feel more confident??</p>