Early D Question

I’m planning on applying to college ED single choice. The problem is my principal is encouraging me to apply ASAP, but I went to the admissions and did an interview and the adcom said not to submit your application until it is strong as possible. My principal is an alumni of the college i’m applying to. Would this scenario happen…
I’m planning on submitting uber senior grades and an improved SAT score. Wake deems everything I have right now fine, and accept me. If they want better grades/SAT’s will they tell me to submit them or will they defer/reject me? My principal is planning on submitting a plans to enroll for Oct. SAT note.
Thanks!

<p>OK let me get this straight. You are applying ED. Yet you are planning to submit "uber senior grades" when exactly do you get your grades? IF you are waiting for graded then you will be applying RD at best. Regarding SAT....have you not taken the test? I presume your principal is anticipating that your school will accept Dec. SAT scores for the ED which apparently will notify you in mid Dec. You will need to check this out and rush your scores.</p>

<p>ED deadline is Nov. 15, I took the SAT's. They are a bit lower than the mid-50% for my school. I'll have my first semester grades in early November. Will the school I'm applying to do one of these two things if I apply ED:
Accept me
or
Tell me to wait and send more updated stats then accept, reject defer me.</p>

<p>You need to speak with your principal or a parent.....you need to look at the application and admissions website for you school where all of these questions are answered....you need do inform yourself. Have you looked at the admission website??? Do you have the application either on line or on paper?</p>

<p>I have the application, I just didn't know whether the school would inform me that my stats weren't good enough and then they'd give me the opportunity to send in new scores.</p>

<p>I think you would be rejected but the possiblity of deferral exists. Why do you think your principal would advise you to apply ED if he thought your would be rejected? Does he usually tell you to do things that harm you? Is there reason to not trust him? I don't understand what you want us to tell you. I think your principal has experience and you don't, I think that other factors are considered so SAT is just one component.</p>

<p>Ok-thanks I just wasn't sure whether an academic update was possible for ED. I know for RD you can send a mid year update, but I wasn't sure if it applied to ED. Sorry for being so confusing, I was trying to find an appropriate way to phrase my question. :)</p>

<p>I have one big question: Who did you speak to in admissions and did they specifically advise YOU not to apply ED? (ok, two questions)</p>

<p>I have two facts: It is normally easier to be admitted during ED than it is RD assuming that the person's stats are equally strong in both cases. If you apply ED and are deferred, it is normally easier to be admitted during RD than otherwise because you have shown interest in the school. It is a bad idea to apply ED if you also plan to apply for financial aid because you give up the ability to compare FA packages. (ok, three facts)</p>

<p>In this case, it sound as if the issue is whether you are currently strong enough to apply ED without being flat out denied, in which case you are not allowed to apply RD (until the following year). If you were seriously evaluated by an adcom, you should wait. Your principal being an alum counts for nothing. Most alumni could not get accepted to their own alma matters in today's marketplace, and they tend to underestimate the competition.</p>

<p>The interviewer said I was a "good match" for the school. He was some sort of dean of admissions. He told me to apply ED if it was my number 1 choice. I told him I think I could improve upon my SAT's and get them from a 1310 to a 14++ m/v. He told me not to submit my ED application until it was as strong as possible. Also my Frosh/Soph grades weren't very strong, so he wants to see how I perform in my AP's next year. My principal is a friend of the interviewer and for NJ Wake Forest Students the scholarship ceremonies were held at his house. Thats my concern-I don't know whether to send in my ED application late august or wait until like mid-november.
thanks :)</p>

<p>What would be the advantage of sending in your app now versus waitin until you're closer to the ED deadline?</p>

<p>Its a rolling ED, so you wouldn't be compared to as many applicants perhaps.</p>

<p>How are you going to raise the numbers on an OLD SAT format?" You will be taking the new format? I would like to understand your plan to raise your score by 100pts. What school are you speaking of.....WakeForest? You are applying to Wake Forest from New Jersey? Is that it?</p>

<p>You do understand the part about not applying ED if you also plan to apply for financial aid? Just checking.</p>

<p>Wake doesn't care about the writing section, they'll look at it but they aren't convinced its a good measure of a students writing abilities.
and yes I think I already said I'm applying to wake forest from NJ...</p>

<p>edit: I'm aware of my FA situation, and my family and I feel that if I get in I deserve to go and it will get payed for :)
Wake is need blind anyway.</p>

<p>Do you know any numbers from previous years on ED % of class? Have you looked this up? Where/who informed you that WakeForest is a rolling ED??</p>

<p>ED acceptance rate for not this year, but the year before was about 10% higher than regular acceptance rate.</p>

<p>% of class would be of the openings for FROSH class how many did WakeForest accept during ED? You answered a different question.</p>

<p>Willmingtonwave, end this thread and research a bit on your own! Good luck!</p>

<p>the guy i talked to when i applied ed said that they would only reject you if (this is seriously a quote) "if we know you'll never set foot on this campus. like if you've failed four classes or you've killed somebody." i think the worst that will happen if your stats are average for the school is deferral to regular decision. </p>

<p>to decide whether you want to apply now or later, you need to weigh potential improvement against how quickly the ed slots will fill up. unfortunately neither variable is going to have an easy answer.</p>

<p>Thanks borntorun-- they told me that even if you get defferred you still have an edge over everyone else, b/c they want kids who really want to go there, not as a backup to UNC-CH, Duke, etc.</p>

<p>"to decide whether you want to apply now or later, you need to weigh potential improvement against how quickly the ed slots will fill up. unfortunately neither variable is going to have an easy answer."</p>

<p>That was exactly what I was unsure about. I think I'm going to compromise and send it in early but check off the mark that says intends to take SAT's again.</p>