Early Decision Question

<p>Okay, so.. I really want to apply ED Vandy. It is my #1 choice and I know that. My stats are about in Vandy's range and I think ED would give me an extra boost to get accepted (47% ED gets accepted). The problem is.. I'm low income and my parents don't think highly of ED. We calculated our EFC and it's probably around $3500, maybe a bit more. Since Vandy meets 100% of need and I could do the 3500 or more with Stafford.. why would I NOT want to do ED? How could I convince my parents to let me ED? (They think that if I'm accepted and they can't afford it they'll contact all the other schools I apply to or make them go into extreme debt or something..)</p>

<p>Edit - Is it true that financial aid packages are worse with ED?</p>

<p>In the case of schools that offer only need-based financial aid, there's no reason to think the aid award would differ between ED and RD. They have their own formula for calculating need, but they don't use a different formula on students who apply ED. Merit aid can be a very different animal. I don't have experience with merit aid schools personally, but it stands to reason that merit aid might well be better for RD. For one thing, merit aid is often used as an incentive to induce talented students to choose their school. Since ED is binding, no inducement is necessary. I don't know whether Vandy is need-based, merit-based, or a combination of both.</p>

<p>Where did you come up with the $3500 EFC? If it's from an estimate calculator using the FAFSA formula, it might be different from the EFC Vandy would calculate using their own formula. (Home equity and non-custodial parent income and assets could factor in to make it higher than the federal formula.)</p>

<p>The other question you want to have some idea about, is when Vandy says they meet 100% of need, how much of that is in the form of loans? Ideally you would want a financial aid package that is heavy on grant aid, and light on loans, but sometimes it's hard to know what it will be until after you have the tentative aid award in hand. Some schools, though, will be open about how much of the package is likely to be in loans and workstudy. See what you can find out about that with regard to Vandy.</p>

<p>I am a lowish-middle income parent, and last year did much research on ED and financial aid. In the end we did feel comfortable about our son applying ED to a very generous school, and he did and was supported by the school to the degree we expected. So, if you do your homework, and your family's finances are simple (no investment assets, 2nd properties, etc.) then you might be able to get a pretty clear picture of what you'd likely see from Vandy as far as need-based aid goes.</p>

<p>Like I said, though, merit aid is a much more mysterious matter in most cases... or so I've heard/read.</p>

<p>Plus, you can get out of an ED agreement if you can't afford the school based on the award they give you. Some people claim that's difficult, some claim it's not difficult at all. I'll leave that to you to sort through, but beware of people who make claims without direct knowledge. I heard all kinds of alarming things about how they won't let you out unless <em>they</em> think the award is insufficient, or how you'll be punished in subsequent applications to other schools. I haven't known anyone who <em>sincerely</em> could not afford an offer, and who told the ED school promptly (as in, they didn't hold off to compare offers from RD schools before telling the ED school) who has had any problem getting out of an ED agreement. In fact there was a thread here asking for tales of shackled students being coerced into ED schools they couldn't afford, or students punished by other schools they applied to later after finding they couldn't afford the ED school's offer... and there really wasn't much luck in coming up with actual experiences like that. So, I think if you are honest and sincere, you're not acting opportunistically, and you tell the ED school right away, you would have no problem getting out of a financially unworkable ED acceptance.</p>

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<p>The stafford loan is a student loan. I believe it will be part of your need based financial aid award, and will not be able to be used to pay your EFC (Swimcats...am I right?). </p>

<p>But Swimcats is correct...if Vandy has a finaid calculator on their site, use that one. The issue with institutional aid is that colleges can use any formula they please to award it. Just make sure you don't get yourself into a situation where you are accepted, receive a good financial aid award that meets your need per the college (they compute it, you don't), and then you have to withdraw from an ED acceptance. I really don't believe any school can force you to attend...but when you apply ED, you KNOW the costs and you agree to attend if you are accepted with a finaid package that is workable...but the SCHOOL determines your need, not you.</p>

<p>The problem with ED is that it is really truly a pain to get out of it if you have to do so. There are often consequences to it. Thumper is absolutely right in all she has to say. </p>

<p>Also, you don't know whether you could do better with ED since you have no basis for comparison. Maybe you could get a true full ride somewhere. </p>

<p>I don't believe schools give a worse deal for ED in terms of FA, but I wonder when it comes to merit money.</p>

<p>Okay, well.. if I were accepted ED Vandy and they gave me an aid package where I had to take out the maximum amount of loans I'd do it even if I were accepted to .. I don't know, Brown or something. I have no problem sticking to the binding agreement if I'll be able to attend with the aid package, that's the only problem.</p>

<p>You sound like a good candidate for an ED app, xSteven. You could explain to your parents that you can be released from the ED agreement if you can't afford it, that should put their concerns at rest. After you get a tentative award then you can discuss it with your parents. They may be pleasantly surprised. Also you can tell them that if an ED app increases your odds of getting accepted to a school with good financial aid, it may be exactly the right move to make. (That was certainly the case for us last year.)</p>

<p>Also once you get a tentative award from Vandy, you can still ask them to make adjustments if it's too much. They are not obligated to do so, but it's certainly worth asking. I have known several families that asked for, and got, some major improvements to their ED financial aid offer.</p>