<p>Hi, I was just wondering if anyone knows approx. how much higher the rate of acceptance is for a student applying ED to Tisch? I’m seriously considering it, as NYU is my first choice, but I’m still somewhat unsure about how “ready” I will feel. Does applying early really increase an applicants chances? Thanks so much.</p>
<p>statistically it does increase your chances at any school, but only by a few percent.</p>
<p>My D applied ED to Tisch Dance and was the ONLY dancer to get in ED for this fall. They took a total of 31 dancers (30 RD) in the freshman class. It is also hard to get any money ED because they don't have to entice you. You are already committed to coming. Do I think doing ED helped her get in? Absolutely.</p>
<p>actually, you get more money if you apply ED lmaty.</p>
<p>Lindsey...I don't think it is true that you get more money by applying early. Generally speaking at any college, what Imaty says is true because with a binding ED, the school knows you are committed no matter the FA package and in fact, candidates cannot compare FA packages (a drawback to the ED route). I'm sure there are students who got good FA packages in ED, don't get me wrong. But I don't think the rule of thumb is that they got MORE. My own daughter was a RD applicant and she received a substantial four year scholarship to Tisch. I doubt she was the only person in the RD where this is the case. There are advantages to applying ED (higher rate of acceptance) but Financial Aid is not one of the ED advantages and generally speaking, it is often considered a disadvantage of the ED path.</p>
<p>lmaty, you think applying ED significantly boosts your chances of acceptance, right? (or at least i did in your daughter's case.) do the rest of you agree? i'm planning to apply to either tisch or mt. holyoke college ED. for me, tisch is much more competitive because acceptance is by audition. i really don't know which school i prefer (i'm working on figuring that out), but i don't have any compelling reason to apply ED other than that there may be a better chance of me getting in. my mom thinks that the higher acceptance rate (even though it's not always that much higher than RD) is a huge reason for me to apply ED. what do the rest of you think??</p>
<p>I do not think you should apply ED. ED should only be considered by those who have a CLEAR CUT FIRST choice that they have had for a while, after fully exploring and visiting schools, etc. Using ED as a "strategy" is NOT a good idea. I would say this to anyone. </p>
<p>I feel it is even MORE compelling in your case as the two schools you like are very very very different both as schools and in the types of degree programs you would be doing. So, for one thing, you are not even fully committed to the idea of a BFA (though are considering it). A BFA program is a HUGE commitment. ED is ALSO a huge commitment. This is a double whammy as we are talking committing to a type of degree program AND to a particular college. I would not advise this. </p>
<p>My own daughter was fully committed to a BFA path for years and she didn't apply ED. In fact, NYU/Tisch had been her first choice school for many years as well. She fully explored some other schools before deciding whether to apply ED (which she considered). She realized she liked several schools (which is necessary when dealing with HIGHLY competitive BFA in MT admissions), and decided to leave options open and see what happened in the RD round. NYU was still at the top of her list but she liked all the schools on her list, and some more than others. She did end up at NYU/Tisch, and LOVES it, but came full circle to it, after visiting and auditioning at 8 schools, and having other BFA acceptances in hand. </p>
<p>Are you interested in MT or Acting? Mount Holyoke is not the best BA option for MT either. These schools and majors are entirely different. I think you should apply RD and your preferences and criteria will shift throughout the year and you can see what cards you are dealt in April and then decide. I don't know if you are applying for FA either but you can also weigh FA offers at that time as well. NYU, and particularly Tisch, is much harder to get into than Mt. Holyoke. NYU accepts 27% and Mount Holyoke accepts 53%. CAP21 has roughly a 7% admit rate and Tisch acting studios have roughly a 16% admit rate. Mt. Holyoke is all women, and NYU is coed. MHC is small and in a rural town but in the five college Consortium, and NYU doesn't have a true campus and is much larger and in a major city. One is a BA, one is a BFA. One has a MT major concentration, one doesn't. I know nothing of your qualifications to even truly advise you. Be aware that the ED pool at a competitive school like Tisch, is usually stronger overall than the RD pool and so while the acceptance rate is a bit higher in the ED round, the competition may even be stronger. </p>
<p>You do NOT need to decide which school you prefer NOW. Right now, you just have to decide on schools you like enough to apply to. In April, you do have to pick from your acceptances as to where you will matriculate. I also do not know how many college visits you have made. It is very early to have to know where you want to attend. Some do know, but clearly you do not and it is Sept. 3. Based on what you wrote, I suggest you apply RD to schools. My kids did and both are attending colleges that were one of their first choice schools anyway. Both also get very good financial aid.</p>
<p>PS...I have also read some of your other posts and I don't feel you know Tisch well enough yet to make a full committment. You mention what you have "heard" and it is very important to talk to MANY students and not judge by what one or two have said. I've seen your comments about the atmosphere being competitive. While there are a ton of talented kids at Tisch and it is hard to be cast and all of that, I do not believe the atmosphere is competitive. There are high standards to be met but there are no cuts. My D and her friends in the studio support one another and cheer for one another when cast. They collaborate on their work. They are pals. They do social things together. A few even date one another! The teachers hold students to a high standard and push them but they also nurture. She loves her teachers. The nature of theater is that everyone is competing for roles and a career but by the same token, the nature of the educational program is collaborative and supportive. Will you like every kid at Tisch? Likely not. But there are plenty of kids to choose from who have the supportive friendly personality you would like to hang out and study and train with.</p>
<p>I totally second Soozievt's advice, and would only add that you most definitely do NOT get nearly as good a financial aid package with ED. Tisch told us that outright. They said, and I quote, "If you need any financial aid, you should apply RD." My own S was also lucky to receive a very substantial financial aid package from Tisch. Even though he had known Tisch was his top choice for years, and knew he wanted a BFA, and knew he wanted to be in NYC, he STILL didn't do ED, mostly because of the financial aid component. If a school gives you advice like that straight out, I think it's best to heed the advice.</p>
<p>raphael....nice to "see" you again. I hope your son is getting off to a great start in NYC and when classes begin tomorrow! </p>
<p>I'm glad you gave that anecdote. As someone who deals with college admissions as my job, I can say that for schools that offer both ED and RD, the rule of thumb is that the chances for FA are better in the RD round. In this case, NYU even told you so. AND both your son and my D are getting very good aid and were accepted in the RD round even though it was their top choice for years. So, I hope Tamar understands this first hand information. </p>
<p>Hey, if you talk to your son this afternoon, tell him that at 7 PM at Gould Plaza in front of Stern on W. 4th, that the NYU N'Harmonics (the award winning coed a capella group at NYU that my D is in and is also the musical director of and writes many of their arrangements) will be performing (free) and alternating songs with the BROADWAY CAST OF SPRING AWAKENING in the performance. He may not know about it and may enjoy it. Auditions for new members are coming up if he is interested.</p>
<p>SoozieVT, wow! That's so cool that your daughter will be performing with Spring Awakening cast! I just called my daughter to tell her about it; I'm sure she had no idea. I had to leave a message, so I hope she gets it in time!
Raphael, I wish you had never written that NYU actually admitted that ED applicants don't get as much aid, lol! I wish now my daughter would have applied RD; MAYBE she would have gotten more aid! I'm in "Parent Plus" loans up to my eyeballs!!!!</p>
<p>RossJi, </p>
<p>If it makes ya feel any better, even though my D got good aid/scholarships in the RD round, we are ALSO in Parent Plus loans up to our eyeballs for both of our girls and will be for a LONG time! :D</p>
<p>My D is not singing WITH Spring Awakening but she is singing and musically directing N'Harmonics who will perform alternately I guess with Spring Awakening throughout, taking turns. I don't think she knew about the Spring Awakening part much in advance at all. She is friends with some cast members who did not mention it when she had lunch out recently but I think the particular cast members may be on vacation and would have understudies perform this evening at the event my D is performing at. By the way, NYU N'Harmonics performed this past Friday night at a sold out performance at Joe's Pub in NYC (not sure your D knew of or went to that show). Your D likely doesn't know about this evening because I think it is geared toward all the NYU freshmen as part of their welcome week, but I am sure anyone can go as it is outdoors.</p>
<p>PS...I think Spring Awakening will be part of this year's Tisch Gala performance as well, or so I have heard, due to several involved in the show who have ties to Tisch as alums.</p>