<p>Sally_R - that is one of the most inciteful posts I have ever read on CC.</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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<p>Wow, was Sally_R’s post really that inciteful, as in leading to rage, as in “inciting” a riot? Did you not mean “insightful” as in containing insight?</p>
<p>Sally - You’ve talked about the “reasonable chance” vs “heave and hope” distinction for ivies, do you have any similar insight into the Stanford SCEA or RD applicant pools?</p>
<p>Stanford’s SCEA application numbers are barely changed from last year–only a difference of 49 applications. So apparently Harvard and Princeton’s reinstated SCEA options have had virtually no impact on Stanford’s early admission program.</p>
<p>I hope Harvard’s isn’t too high… Would it affect chances at Harvard if there happen to be a ton of qualified people applying early, or would they just accept more people? I really hope I get in, whether it’s now or RD, but I would prefer to know now.</p>
<p>Hi, I’m new … longtime lurker, just registered.</p>
<p>I do alumni interviews for Harvard (and have a son who is going to be applying to college soon, hence my registering on this site).</p>
<p>I recently interviewed an EA applicant from one of the most prestigious midwestern high schools. She (and don’t quote me ever on the genders, I will always switch them around, or not, on a site like this) told me some really interesting stuff during our interview. For one, that there was one student in her school who had literally just picked out the top 20 colleges/universities in the country and applied to them all, blindly, just because of their rank. Did not do EA at any of them.</p>
<p>I guess the happy ending is that the student got into one of the schools which anyone here would consider fantastic (think Duke), but, for example, did not get into a single Ivy. Making said student extremely depressed and psychologically damaged for a while. (I gather they’re happily at “Duke” now.)</p>
<p>I also understand that while approximately 150 (one hundred fifty !!) students at her one school were applying to Harvard, that only about fifteen had chosen to apply EA. That says to me that many of the others are applying only for that “reach and cross fingers” part.</p>
<p>I think more and more people are just throwing in apps. Or, they’re misinformed. I know a girl with average EC’s who is convinced she’s getting into Columbia with a 2000. Another girl tells me she’s a shoo-in at Harvard (again, very medicre EC’s) with a good GPA because of her 2200. Another kid with a 2250 only has Ivies on his list-and Duke as a safety. I know SAT’s aren’t everything, but a lot of these seem like shots in the dark.</p>
<p>Harvard announced 4245 SCEA…</p>
<p>Looks like Harvard and Princeton SCEA had a great effect on Yale’s SCEA numbers.</p>
<p>Yale’s SCEA numbers are significantly above those it achieved 5 years ago when it last shared the HYP early pool and the Harvard SCEA numbers were below Yale’s despite a much larger class size and an historically much larger applicant pool. I’m sure Yale is quite pleased it retained so large a fraction of its early applicants.</p>
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<p>Well, at least it’s less than Yale and Stanford.</p>
<p>Those lucky Princetonians…</p>
<p>Yeah… I think applicants who haven’t actually researched colleges in depth are a major factor here. I know a person who applied only to to very top schools in his home state - the state flagship with less than 1 in 3 (often very qualified) applicants accepted, a very highly ranked private with less than 1 in 6 accepted, and a top ten LAC as his safety. These applications seem to me to be the result of a college research process that was entirely uninvolved and ill-informed. Why apply only to the top schools you hear the most about? Why apply only to schools in your state (I understand that some may want to stay close to home, but bordering states often have colleges that are physically closer and perhaps closer to what you really want in a college)? And if he isn’t accepted to any of these schools, he will probably send RD applications to five actual safeties with late deadlines in an attempt to guarantee his admission <em>somewhere</em>. (Driving more acceptance rates down, sort of artificially.)</p>
<p>Prestige is should be only one factor in deciding where to apply, if it is one at all. There’s a very microscopic chance that the best three schools in one state are the best three schools for one person.</p>
<p>I wish people would spend less time focusing on dream schools and more time figuring out which schools interest them but are also financial safeties with a good program in their major, rather than well-knowns with a large endowment or prestigious football record.</p>
<p>“Those lucky Princetonians…”
What do you guys think the acceptance rate will be? I’m spazzing out at the moment. lol</p>
<p>Ditto the above post for Harvard. Do you think SCEA will be more of a Yale-like 3x acceptance rate, or a Stanford-like 1.5x?</p>
<p>Would anyone like to postulate what WUSTL’s ED rate is going to be?
I was going to do Cornell then Duke ED but later opted out.</p>
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<p>I applied to WashU ED as well. Unfortunately, WashU doesn’t publish ED statistics, so I wouldn’t have any basis for an estimate:(</p>
<p>Whatever it is, hopefully we both get in!</p>
<p>Anybody know a figure for the Rice ED pool this year?
I know that 29% of the EDers last year got in…</p>
<p>People are forgetting to factor in that Princeton has a smaller freshman class than Harvard, Stanford and Yale … so although less kids applied, the chances are still as ridiculously tough due to limited space versus the other 3.</p>
<p>tallgirl- Last year, Princeton accepted 2282 applicants, but only 1300 of those are actually in the freshman class.
Last year, Yale accepted 2006 applicants, but there are only 1310 of those in the freshman class.
Last year, Harvard accepted 2158 applicants, but there are 1655 of those in the freshman class.
Last year, Princeton accepted the most applicants, but because the yield rate of Princeton being the lowest, the freshman class size is the smallest. I know you can defend that saying that because Yale took many applicants in through SCEA, its yield rate might be higher because of student’s passion to go there. However, it can’t be refuted that the difference doesn’t make up for the fact that even though Princeton’s freshman class is the smallest. Therefore, by fewer applying and more being accepted through regular decision last year, Princeton could either a) freak out by the HYS statistics of early action and accept more through SCEA or b) accept fewer applicants waiting for the “cream of the crop” who applied to HYS.</p>
<p>Are the actual number of students who applied early and were accepted going to be announced for those schools before the results come out?</p>