<p>I am trying to decide when to sign up for orientation.
Some college guidebooks claim that it's a good idea to go to the first orientation session to get first dibs on classes. But I won't have my AP Calculus grades. I am also out-of-state and it would be cheaper to go to the August one.</p>
<p>margsala- you don't get first dibs on classes if you attend the earlier orientation sessions. UNC reserves spots in all classes for all CTOPS sessions. Otherwise the people who attend the last session are completely screwed. Most OOS people attend the session right before move-in weekend. I would definitely wait until at least mid-July to go so that you'll have your scores. I'm in the same position: )</p>
<p>I've heard from a lot of students that you should go to the earlier sessions actually and that if you go to the last one you do get pretty screwed with classes. A lot of my friends are current students and they've been telling me to go to the first one possible. As for the Calc score, you can always take the SATII for Math II if you're that worried about it.</p>
<p>If you go to the earliest CTOPS sessions, you do have an edge to get the classes you want. But it is more expensive for OOS people to come to the earlier orientation sessions. From my understanding, almost all OOS students attend the last CTOPS session. I am in-state and will probably go to a CTOPS session in July. I want to wait for my AP test scores. The SAT II for Math II will get you a little bit of credit at UNC, but not much. Passing an AP Calc exam will get you much more math credit. It is attractive to wait for AP scores so then I will get my schedule right the first time around.</p>
<p>I wasn't really thinking of the Calc exam in terms of credit (Since I, for one, am not taking it, I took stats this year) but if you will not have your Calc exam grade by the time the CTOPS you want to attend is happening or you won't be getting a score for it at all UNC says you need to take the Math II SATII to have a score to base placement on.</p>
<p>I would rather pay $200 and sign up for the classes I want than to save $200 and hate my scheduele the first semester of my freshman year... I guess that once I finalize my decision to attend UNC I will call the admissions office and ask.</p>
<p>You basically have to take the SAT II for math placement at UNC, regardless of whether or not you are taking an AP Calc exam. (For the record, I already took the SAT II). If you opt out of taking the SAT II, you must pass the Calc exam. If you score anywhere b/w 600 and 800 (perfect score) on the SAT II, you're put in the same class- something like Calc 101. If you take the Calc BC exam and get a 3, 4, or 5, you place out of like three times that much (I'd have to check the specifics on the UNC site). So for some people, it would be worth the wait. If you go to an early CTOPS session and get the classes you want, you are still going to have to go back and mess around with your schedule to get the right math class.</p>
<p>Margsala, most of the out-of-state students come to the one in August, for the same reason. And there is no advantage to attending early. Cat119 is correct, spots are reserved in all classes.</p>
<p>thanks skie :) I guess I will attend the august one.
Do you know if they accept AB subscores? I am self-studying half of Calc BC and I am scared to fail all of it and have to retake all of Calc AB...</p>
<p>im OOS as well, and went to the last orientation session.</p>
<p>let's put it this way: i couldn't get into Econ 101. i couldn't get into English 102. French 203. Astronomy 101. Biology 101. </p>
<p>i couldn't get into ANY classes.</p>
<p>but they also have a drop/add day, and that's when you're able to get into pretty much any class you want.</p>
<p>but i just wanted to say that even though they say they reserve spots, they kinda don't. people who went to the 2nd and 3rd orientation were saying that they had to choose some second choices, and seemed pretty disappointed about it. </p>
<p>annnnd that's when i told them that i had to sign up for classes i had never even HEARD OF just to get into them.</p>
<p>when do all the sophomores sign up? my classes are a little different than that of the average freshman because my school had an insane amount of ap's, so maybe my situation is different...
what about honors classes - are those reserved too?</p>
<p>I'm with margsala- I have enough college credit from APs to exempt me from some of the 101 type classes. So maybe that will make it easier... I think the Honors kids are allowed to sign up before the rest of us- a friend of mine told me all the seminars get snatched up right away by Honors people. But the drop/add day sounds like it would fix any schedule problems you might have, even if that's a really annoying process to go through.</p>
<p>hey pogue buddy! lol im having the same debate... but i think im going to the last one tho to meet lots of out of state kids and ill make my schedule work...hopefully i wont need any 101 classes besides math so i should be ok. its only one semester. r u honors, btw? im not and it seems odd cuz im pogue...who knows...</p>
<p>Though OOS, my S went to a June CTOPS. He entered UNC with 43 hours of AP credits three years ago, and was also in Honors. He had no problems getting classes he wanted. He was told by an advisor that scheduling some of the core classes he still needed to take would be easier if he took them on the off-semester which is what he did. His roommate also had 40 or 43 hours of AP credits and because he was a poli sci/history major, he had a little difficulty getting a couple classes but he took the advice and took them, second semester with no difficulty.</p>
<p>They assured us at Explore that they hold spaces available in popular classes for all the orientation sessions. At most large state schools you can get the classes you want/need through add/drop or by talking to the professor. Takes a little patience!</p>