<p>Just apply to those you are interested in. If you are in the running for Cornell, you are in the running for anywhere. The "which is easiest" question might be relevant to your ED choice, but other than that, it's an academic exercise that won't get you much.</p>
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<p>I am a Cornell student. Speaking from experience, most people I know at Cornell pull at least 3.4+ (excluding engineers), for those who put in decent effort. Also, by decent effort, I am not talking about putting 3+ hours of homework every night, endless all-nighters for midterms, etc. I would say that most people who put in aroud 2 hours of work each day and who study their courses with motivation and interest end up getting the results that are fair. Also, another thing to note is that the average gpa at Cornell is around 3.3, which is very close to other top schools. (I think Harvard's avg gpa is around 3.4, Princeton = 3.3, Stanford=3.4ish, Northwestern = 3.4ish, Duke = 3.3-3.4.)</p>
<p>National</a> Trends in Grade Inflation, American Colleges and Universities</p>
<p>Cornell isn't here but an interesting site nonetheless. The Ivies are mostly around 3.3-3.4</p>
<p>"Cornell isn't any more difficult than any other top school of its caliber."</p>
<p>Based on friends' stories of grading and difficulty at Cornell, I think Cornell may be harder than Yale (where I go to school).</p>
<p>By pure acceptance rate: </p>
<ol>
<li>Cornell</li>
<li>Penn</li>
<li>Brown</li>
<li>Dartmouth</li>
<li>Columbia</li>
<li>Princeton</li>
<li>Yale </li>
<li>Harvard</li>
</ol>
<p>At least, that's what I think. I'm not that sure with the exception of Cornell being first and Harvard being last.</p>
<p>Keep in mind, though, that most people aren't cross admits and one could get into Columbia while being denied admission to Cornell.</p>
<p>A nice aspect about Cornell is that if you're in state (NY resident), you can apply to one of the land grant colleges within Cornell and get a huge tuition break. And I can't imagine that it doesn't help for getting in.</p>
<p>Harvard had a huge app increase this year (20%), pushing it to slightly more selective than Princeton and Yale. Similarly, Dartmouth had a 17% increase in applications this year and a 13.2% acceptance rate, closing in on Columbia territory (which had a 4% increase and a 10%rate), although Dartmouth's SAT scores are higher. Penn also had essentially no application increase, so it lagged Dartmouth/ Brown this year. </p>
<p>Pure Acceptance rate selectivity:</p>
<ol>
<li>Harvard (7.1%)</li>
<li>Princeton/ Yale (9%)</li>
<li>Columbia (10.0%)</li>
<li>Dartmouth (13.2%)/Brown (13.4%)</li>
<li>Penn (16.5%)</li>
<li>Cornell (20.5%)</li>
</ol>
<p>All this isn't science though and with the craziness with admissions today you could get rejected from Cornell and in at Yale. Also there are many nuances. Penn is very GPA/ rank focused, which Dartmouth is known to score oriented for example.</p>
<p>Cornell is the easiest to get into.</p>
<p>Studenst, however, must then struggle to compete with more high-calibur students. It all evens out, I think.</p>
<p>this thread ****es me off.</p>
<p>honestly, just because a school is an ivy doesn't make it better than another school.. like say stanford or duke.</p>
<p>Dude -- no one said anything about anything being better than another.</p>
<p>Just which ones are easiest to get into...</p>
<p>...which, like, those two shouldn't come up in anyway.</p>
<p>Here are the stats</p>
<p>Brown
13.5% Acceptance Rate
22.7% Early Acceptance rate
94% Top 10% of High school Class
2010 – 2290 SAT (25/75 percentile)
Columbia
10.4% Acceptance Rate
24.4% Early Acceptance rate
88% Top 10% of the High School Class
1980 - 2220 SAT (25/75 percentile)
Cornell
20.5% Acceptance Rate
36.6% Early Acceptance rate
87% Top 10% of the High School Class
1280 - 1490** SAT (25/75 percentile)
Dartmouth
14% Acceptance Rate
29.7% Early Acceptance rate
87% Top 10% of the High School Class
1350 - 1530** SAT (25/75 percentile)
Harvard***
9% Acceptance Rate
21.8% Early Acceptance rate
90% Top 10% of the High School Class
2080 - 2370 SAT (25/75 percentile)
Penn
15.9% Acceptance Rate
29% Early Acceptance rate
91% Top 10% of the High School Class
1980 - 2250 SAT (25/75 percentile)
Princeton***
9.5% Acceptance Rate
26.2% Early Acceptance rate
95% Top 10% of the High School Class
2050 - 2360 SAT (25/75 percentile)
Yale
9.6% Acceptance Rate
19.7% Early Acceptance rate
95% Top 10% of the High School Class
2080 - 2370 SAT (25/75 percentile)</p>
<p>But you need to take into account what schools people apply too. U Penn's College of Arts and Sciences itself had an about 11 percent acceptance rate and Wharton has even lower. Cornells College of Arts and admitted only 14.6% of applicants. This puts Penn on par with Columbia and a little above Brown and Dartmouth. So basically what is posted above is a general outline, but certain schools are harder to get into than others and like everyone else said once your qualified its all a crap shoot.</p>
<p>how does the above post put penn on par with columbia and/or above brown
penn has lower stats than brown on every measure</p>
<p>Bescraze, your stats are wrong. Dartmouth had 93% in the top 10% last year, that stat is at least three years old. Also your acceptance rates are not correct (and seem to take all Penn's best data over the past few years, while lowering other schools). Also your interpretations are wrong. The 11% number you quote for A&S is for RD, Brown/ Dartmouth had RD admit numbers around 9%. Cornell's 14.6% number is also an RD number, not overall number. I would bet Penn's A&S rate is close to 16% and Cornell's about 18%.</p>
<p>The reality is that Penn's acceptance rate is higher than Brown and Dartmouth, by a decent margin this year.</p>
<p>Example:</p>
<p>Dartmouth: 13.2% with little waitlist activity.</p>
<p>TheDartmouth.com</a> | College admits 2,190 applicants</p>
<p>"Admissions to the Class of 2012 were the most selective in Dartmouth’s history — the College accepted just 13.2 percent of applicants"</p>
<p>Penn: 16.8%. </p>
<p>(Admitting another 90-100 off the waitlist)</p>
<p>Dean's</a> exit, projected yield affected admit rate - News</p>
<p>"A shake-up in the admissions office and a projected lower yield rate likely contributed to Penn's slightly higher acceptance rate this year, admissions experts say. Penn's acceptance rate increased to 16.4 percent this year, up from 16 percent last year. In contrast, the other Ivies - excluding Cornell University, which has yet to release its information - have all reported record low admissions rates."</p>
<p>ummm, bescraze princeton and harvard no longer have early programs.</p>
<p>Yeah bescraze's data is really random...i.e. from mulitple years and not accurate.</p>
<p>Sorry that data on it was copied from a website, which falsely labeled it as this past year. This is this years data. My apologies.
Ivy league College- Overall Accept Rate-Regular Decision Accept. rate- Early Decision Accept rate
Brown-13.3%-12%- 22.7%
Columbia-10%-8.4%-23.1%
Cornell-22.4%-20.8%-26.8%
Dartmouth-13.2%-11.8%-28%
Harvard- 7.1%-7.1%- NO EA/ED
Penn- 16.4%-13.8%-29.2%
Princeton-9.3%-9.3%- NO EA/ED</p>
<p>My only point was when evaluating a schools selectivity it is important to look at the particular school of the college you are applying too. If someone has data how Columbia, Penn, Dartmouth and Brown's school of Arts and Sciences compare in selectivity that will be interesting to know. I have a feeling they are very similar and Penn's rate will be more aligned with those other schools than overall (Thanks to its nursing school and such).</p>
<p>Yeah I don't think the difference is that drastic between Columbia, Dartmouth,. Brown, and Penn. Overall they are all in the same category, below HYP and above Cornell.</p>
<p>Most ppl I know who applied to most/all ivy league schools were rejected by all of them EXCEPT cornell</p>
<p>All acceptance rate shows is the percentage admitted from the total applicant pool - it's all relative. Of course Harvard is going to have more applicants and therefor a lower acceptance rate. They are all competative. Don't apply just because it might be "easier". They're IVY League! They're all hard to get into.</p>
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Most ppl I know who applied to most/all ivy league schools were rejected by all of them EXCEPT cornell
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<p>Same here. And, they choose to attend other top national universities/LACs.</p>