<p>This might be a stupid question but what is a secondary? Also talking about what brian was saying, is NYMC and SUNY Syracuse two schools that if you’re a NY resident you have a very high shot at? I would think that most of the SUNY med schools would be pretty easy to get into if you are a NY resident.</p>
<p>Thanks for the graph. Those look like really good odds. Confirms what I thought - that a lot of unqualified people apply every year and that explains why 45% of applicants or so get accepted (which is still pretty good odds imo). I’m surprised at the percentage in which many with low GPAs or low MCATs get in every year, especially people with GPAs between 3.0s and 3.2s! Unless they went to Caltech, that’s a really bad GPA. And 30% of those with GPAs between 3.0 and 3.2 get in with “okay” MCATs like 30s and 31s. And I’m almost sure that the 91.5% acceptance rate for those with 3.8 to 4.0s and 39-45 MCATs is due to overshooting and being overconfident and only applying to the highest ranked medical schools (or possibly having bad ECs, which can be fixed easily). If they reapply to lower ranked med schools, they will get in. Looking at this graph should be comforting since a lot of people who should not be applying apply. If you aren’t an idiot, you will be fine as long as you are realistic with target schools.</p>
<p>This might also be yield protection. 35s and 3.8s+ are almost guaranteed admission, presumably to the highest ranked med schools. Comparing those with similar stats makes more sense and perhaps those with target numbers would “align” their interests to practicing rural medicine anyway. Also, very few of these schools are located in the true countryside, so I’m not sure how you differentiate between the suburbs and “rural communities.”</p>
<p>So what does this mean now? And is it true that SUNY med schools don’t favor in state students? Shouldn’t they? I mean there are a lot of state med schools that ONLY accept in state students. That sucks for NY students though.</p>
<p>According to this, there’s not much of a boost, at least compared to Texas, Mass, and Louisiana. The percent of those interviewed in TX, MA, and LA who are in state is almost 100%. You can always get residency in one of those states after college, ha. According to posters on that forum, there is a “really high chance of acceptance” if you are in state in TX. [Are</a> NY state medical schools resonable to get into for in-staters? | Pre-Medical Allopathic [ MD ] | Student Doctor Network](<a href=“Are NY state medical schools resonable to get into for in-staters? | Student Doctor Network”>Are NY state medical schools resonable to get into for in-staters? | Student Doctor Network)
It’s does suck, and I disagree with their incentives since it lowers the quality of matriculants, but you can always play the system too by establishing residency. I wouldn’t worry about it now. Just keep your GPA up and I’m willing to bet you will get into a med school without having to relocate. If you have a 3.6+ the odds are in your favor that you will get into a med school.</p>
<p>^Sure, it’s unfair, but there’s nothing out there that says med school admissions must be fair. It’s a bummer that it’s so much a crap shoot, but really, it is.</p>
<p>And Brian, I’m intrigued by some of your insights. Are you a med student? Sometimes I get the impression you are, other times I don’t. Just curious–don’t answer if you don’t want to.</p>
<p>It’s interesting to me that some people here think 45% overall acceptance rate is reasonable and others think it’s obscenely low and still others don’t care. I personally think it’s low but I don’t think that’s problematic because I think it’s quite reasonable to be very selective when choosing future doctors.</p>
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<p>In general, I disagree with this point because I believe there is much more to the admissions process than grades and test scores. There’s a link to a paper from the AAMC floating around on this board about the qualities an adcom values, and it’s not surprising to me that personality plays a huge role in deciding whom to accept. It’s clear that test scores and grades are necessary but not sufficient for admission, so determining that you’re a “shoo in” somewhere because you hit specific grade and GPA marks is probably not in your best interest.</p>
<p>"And by easy I mean schools that have 40% above acceptance rates. "</p>
<p>-If you mean this, no MD/DO USA Med. School will meet this criteria. Our local (not ranked) Med. School has close to 5000 applicants for 170 spots every year. I doubt that any USA Med. School has much lower than that.</p>
<p>is Uniformed Services Univ. of the Health Sciences (Hebert) a state school? I know its public because it’s military but do OOS and is state students have an equal shot?</p>