<p>UCSB is usually not even listed when it comes to rankings for econ ungrad degrees. Should I be worried about attending SB?</p>
<p>wheres the rankings?</p>
<p>Only if you need a job. My friends daughter graduated 2 years ago and had to wait tables. Now she is getting a teaching degree at Portland State. She had a nice time though.</p>
<p>Why wouldn't I need a job?</p>
<p>As for the rankings, I see a lot posted on this forum.</p>
<p>you can perfectly well find a job if you go to ucsb. If your proactive and do well, a finance position in a corporation would be easy enough to attain, ibanking could be a possibility if you actually put in the effort to go beyond ucsb career services and if you want to do accounting, well then perfect since that is what we are known or and place best in.</p>
<p>All right, that's good to know. I'm staying away from account and plan to pursue marketing. Is that a good choice at ucsb? Or should I transfer out for that stuffz?</p>
<p>you can very well find a job if you go to ucsb, thats very correct. but basically you can very well find a job coming out of a community college as well.</p>
<p>ucsb doent exactly have the best rep in the LA corp. world, and no rep outsode of CA. in fact, a ucsb degree has a very negative connotation: party school, like AZ state and sdsu. recruiters are extremely superficial, and they will stereotype you based on what school youre coming out of.</p>
<p>i mean, if you want to hack it in the corp world, but the best you can muster is a ucsb degree, its not exactly overwhelming to recruieters unless you are magna/summa cum laude with a type-a personality, or youre some kind of stud.</p>
<p>now, shoudl you be worried? no. youre already in a better position than a lot of other people just b/c you already go to college. but if you want a top job (im not talking about tax auditing at delliotte, that's weak) your chances are much better from a school with an established rep in the biz world. </p>
<p>basically, if you want ibanking/m. consulting, then transfer to a 'target school'. but if youre fine with settling with a typical corp. lackey job, ucsb is sufficient. this is coming from someone who transfered out of uci specifically for this reason.</p>
<p>actually i would have to disagree with that. A few new on campus recruiters this year would include johnson and johnson, apple, yahoo, protiviti, mercer consulting, etc. It is only getting better. There are students here, the few that now about ibanking, that have interviewed with rbc, morgan, goldman for full time offers this year. Working for big 4 is not a weak job either. You have 8-9,000 ful time hires each year for the big 4 combined, considerably more than ibanking and consulting combined. But that does not constitute it as weak.</p>
<p>I can count at least 15 students from UCI that have gone to work at hedge funds straight out of undergrad in just the last 2 yrs. You can very well be proactive at any good school and come out fine.</p>
<p>All right guys, thanks. I feel better now.</p>
<p>you can count at least 15 students from UCI that have gone to work at hedge funds straight out of undergrad in just the last 2 yrs.?</p>
<p>im going to have to raise the BS FLAG for that statement. unless of course you dont know what a hedge fund is. </p>
<p>you know, i have worked at MS, my old roomate worked at ML, one of my frat bros worked at lehman, another at GS (beacuse his uncle was an MD in NYC, lucky bastard). 2 of us got our internships through seo. seo distributes a "facebook" of seo recruits across the country. the only two uc's represented in the facebook in the summer i did seo where of course cal and ucla. now granted, thats only for internships through seo. but after gossiping among distinguished colleagues in the field(and trust me, ibankers love superficial gossip), ive come to the conclusion that 95% of analyst level ibankers come from:</p>
<p>ivy leugue schools
top LAC's
top 5 undergrad b school programs: wharton, ross, stern, haas, sloan pretty much </p>
<p>and the remaining 5% come from usnews top 25.</p>
<p>reality check: securing a good job with a good company is possible with a ucsb degree, if you want to settle for just a good life. if you want to be truly exceptional, i suggest you transfer.</p>
<p>So basically I'd have to transfer to Haas my junior year to be successful?</p>
<p>Why yes i do know what a hedge fund is. Considering paamco recruits a few uci grads a year, it would be conceivable and very probably that there are just a few other students who are proactive and seek internships/full time jobs at other hedge funds located in newport, santa monica, etc. </p>
<p>You mention SEO at UCSB and you will get nothing. No one knows about it and the career center does nothing to promote it. That is the main difference between a school such as usc and a school such as UCSB, UCI, UCD, etc. There is a totally different focus when you attend marshall or leventhall. They train you to find a job. UC's, at least the mid tier lack that important aspect. Take a look at the tech management program at UCSB. Look at the biographies of the faculty. They will readily help you. Few will ever take advantage however. Students here that want ib visit UCLA to network. </p>
<p>Trojanman, you are simply being to blunt when you mention a ucsb degree will "only" give you a good life. UCSB students are for the majority, seeking different things or are totally clueless. I can name a few students at USC that can easily attain an ib position (grade wise and personality - this just being a guess) that 100% only want to do accounting. You believe everyone wants to be in ib or finance which is false. I had a chance to intern with a small but well respected venture capital firm and i turned it down. The work did not interest me</p>
<p>Well, assuming I get an MBA at a higher tier grad school, SB would be overridden anyway, right?</p>
<p>yes it would. But is it really that bad to have UCSB on your resume. MrTrojan may have had a bad experience at a mid tier UC. But he is just one case. There are succesfull driven students at UCSB and there are plenty of unsuccessful students at USC. </p>
<p>For example, i have recently been in contact with a few people from a small investment bank. It is not goldman or ML, etc. But i will be meeting a few of them for an interview next week. And what do i get from this. I have contact with 5 people that were prior CEO's of public companies, economic consultants to companies such as bearingpoint, ford and various other public companies, 2 of whom were MD's at bulge bracket banks for over 20 years, etc etc. And all this has happened in my 2 quarters at UCSB. I have already had 1 internship, i have an accounting internship lined up during the summer, i have had to turn down a PE firm for a staff accountant position, i have had to turn down a VC firm and may possibly be doing valuation and stategic consulting work for another local firm (2 prior hires went on to work at a PE firm and one at a 9 billion dollar HF)</p>
<p>If you can get into a school like USC, or transfer, go for it, definetly go for it. But you can make things work out for you.</p>