Econ? UCD v UCSD

Colleges and Universities A-Z University of California - Davis
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<p>I havent SIRed yet. I am deciding between UCD and UCSD and im like gahhhh dasfafaf about it. I just need some answers thx a bunch!</p>

<p>Can you tell me all about the Econ/ Mangeriable Science major?
How are the teachers?
Does the T.A teach the class? If so how often?
How many students are in a class?
How is the social life?
Is it graded hard?
How much is the living expenses there?
How much is the Apartment?
and if i missed anything just any more info would be great?</p>

<p>OH YEA WHAT TYPE OF JOBS CAN YOU GET WITH ECON/ MANAGE science?!?!?!</p>

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<p>UCSD Econ is top notch. Go there. I think UCSD's econ is even above UCLA's.</p>

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<p>is econ still good at UCD?</p>

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<p>Yes, both econ and managerial econ are fantastic at UCD. The graduates are known for their excellent quantitative skills.</p>

<p>UCSD is questionable
SignOnSanDiego.com</a> > News > Education -- Cram session or classroom?</p>

<p>As for some of your questions.</p>

<p>TA's only teach discussion. Expect about 25 students in a discussion. Your lectures will always be taught by professors. Lectures for undergraduate classes can be large, especially in the introductory classes.</p>

<p>Economics majors are well prepared to succeed in careers requiring both knowledge of financial concepts and keen analytical abilities. Graduates are working in all areas of business and government, including investment firms, congressional advisory committees, government regulatory agencies and business journalism.</p>

<p>Managerial economics majors from UC Davis have entered careers in every area of business and industry, including marketing, analysis, consulting and financial service. They work with organizations such as Apple Computer, Deloitte & Touche, Mervyn's, Bogle Vineyards and Pacific Bell. Many have also become entrepreneurs, launching businesses in areas as diverse as real estate and magazine publishing. Others have entered advanced degree programs in business management, resource planning and law.</p>

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<p>Expect to have some non-english speaking professors for ECN 1A & 1B (not for sure, but I know there are 2 or 3 out of 6), but past that you've got excellent professors.</p>

<p>fooshy</p>

<p>EDIT: Not to say those professors are bad, but they can be hard to understand. Those 2 classes aren't that hard though, so I guess it all balances out.</p>

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<p>Haha I had a non-english speaking TA and that was hard, even for math. They wrote numbers and never explained anything. Yeah, I'm on the same boat as you. I'm an Econ major deciding to go to either UCD or UCSD.</p>

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<p>UCSD is known much more for it's sciences, less for econ; whereas UCD has an excellent econ/ managerial econ program; expect 60k right after graduation; it's a really popular major.</p>

<p>Also, it doesn't help much that all sd dorms are suite-style, which makes it really hard to meet new people, unlike davis where most of the dorms are traditional dorm-style.</p>

<p>One thing cool about sd though is it's barely 30 mins away from Tijuana. :)</p>

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<p>Igaboj, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about, so stop talking.</p>

<p>It makes me so angry when people BS about things that are just blatantly wrong. Have you even had a job before?</p>

<p>From a simple common sense perspective: The BusinessWeek Undergrad Business School Rankings:
Undergrad</a> - BSchools</p>

<p>So you're telling me that UC Davis economics grads make MORE starting salary than: UC Berkeley Haas, Cornell, Notre Dame, and the same amount as UMich Ross, NYU Stern, and UPenn Wharton?</p>

<p>Additionally, having gone to Davis for two years I'd say it is possible to make 60k right out of graduation. I had a 3.9 GPA, multiple internships, and earned a 55K starting salary (and supposing end of year bonus was ~5k) that might've been 60k?</p>

<p>HOWEVER, this is not the case for everyone. Not everyone will earn a 3.5+, a lot of people will goof off, a lot of people will get below a 3.0 some quarters. 60K is definitely not the average, it's probably top 1%-5% for UC Davis Economics & Managerial Economics majors.</p>

<p>Having known many seniors in these majors, many went onto grad school because they did not want to settle for a lower salary job, or found a job that paid 20k-40k.</p>

<p>If you "expect" 60k right after graduation, you're bound to be disappointed.</p>

<p>Additionally, econ is a "really popular major" because a lot of people who start in UC Davis in engineering majors drop out of those majors and take up econ instead. If you check your "class size" in your freshman year, and your "class size" junior year, you will see about a 600+ student increase (relative to your units) (though this is by increase of entire college of letters & science).</p>

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<p>UCD has a great econ program, ilikeoranges. It also has a great program that allows students to internet in Washington, D.C. I too have heard the high salary figure, so don't just dismiss it -- it might be accurate.</p>

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<p>i dobut the avg starting salary is that of Sloan, Ross, wharton, and haas though.</p>

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<p>Wait, I thought you were a HS senior dmissions. Are you?</p>

<p>At a certain level Econ and, to a lesser extent, business, becomes a science. Which is why CMU, MIT are ranked so high. So you shouldn't dismiss UCSD just because Econ isn't science-y.</p>

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<p>econ is a science of human behavior :)</p>

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<p>I thought that was psychology, along with the human mind which affects behavior.</p>

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<p>It's the science of human behavior when those humans have a crap load of money on hand.</p>

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<p>From the UCD web site
Economics:
The study of economics is the study of choices. How should a society choose to allocate and distribute its resources? Which needs should have the highest priority, and which are less important? Economists study how people use their limited resources in an attempt to satisfy their unlimited wants. They create scientific models to explain why people behave the way they do, and use these models along with observations of the world to analyze and explain why things happen the way they do. Based on this knowledge, they propose solutions to problems that may at first seem surprising, but that prove to work well in practice. Economists work in all areas of government and industry, in positions ranging from stock market analysis to sports marketing and banking regulation.
[Economics[/url</a>]</p>

<p>Managerial Economics:
The managerial economics major at UC Davis goes beyond the limits of traditional economics and business majors, blending a thorough grounding in economic theory with business knowledge and applications. You will specialize in at least one of three options: managerial economics, which focuses on evaluating, financing and managing business activities; environmental and resource economics, which focuses on issues related to use of resources and environmental quality; or agricultural economics, which focuses on the business aspects of producing and marketing foods and fibers. The real-world focus of this major provides ideal preparation for transition into the business world or to postgraduate business administration programs.
[url=<a href="http://admissions.ucdavis.edu/academics/major_view.cfm?major=apme%5DManagerial"&gt;http://admissions.ucdavis.edu/academics/major_view.cfm?major=apme]Managerial&lt;/a> Economics](<a href="http://admissions.ucdavis.edu/academics/major_view.cfm?major=lecn%5DEconomics%5B/url"&gt;http://admissions.ucdavis.edu/academics/major_view.cfm?major=lecn)&lt;/p>

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<p>Kinda Harsh Ilikeoranges. Igaboj made mostly good points. </p>

<p>I would flirt with the idea that econ grads from Davis and UCSD make the same amount of money. They are both fine schools and students will be successful or not at either college. That is pretty sad if students are making less than 40 grand after graduating from a top 30 school in the nation. I would not think that was the usual salary of a UCD graduate.</p>

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<p>"UCD has a great econ program, ilikeoranges. It also has a great program that allows students to internet in Washington, D.C."</p>

<p>Wow, a program to internet[sic] in Washington, D.C.! Man, where would other people find such a great opportunity?</p>

<p>"UCSD is known much more for it's sciences, less for econ"</p>

<p>This doesn't mean UCSD econ is not well-know or highly ranked. UCSD econ was ranked 10th in the nation in 2005 while UCD was no where to be found in top 25.</p>

<p>Here's a thread on this:
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/201381-undergraduate-economics-ranking.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/201381-undergraduate-economics-ranking.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>"UCSD is questionable"</p>

<p>What about this link right here? Did you fail to find this one?
SignOnSanDiego.com</a> > News > Business -- A wealth of talent</p>

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<p>Nope tastybeef, I've never seen that link but it doesn't jibe with what many UCSD students say. My daughter personally has several friends at UCSD who are unhappy with the quality of instruction. The quotes in the article I put up are exactly what my daughter was told by her UCSD friends. Her friends along with her three visits to UCSD are what helped her decide not to attend school there.</p>

<p>From the article I linked to:
Dozens of students say they are seeking the private tutoring to cope with demanding work schedules, intense classroom competition and what many describe as ineffective teaching by UCSD faculty. </p>

<p>Still, many of Kyner's students say his clear, nurturing teaching style is a welcome antidote to what they often encounter on campus: Professors who barely speak English, give disorganized lectures and dedicate themselves to research, not teaching. </p>

<p>"They may be brilliant people, but they don't take the time to explain things, and they don't understand that we're undergrads and we're not at that level yet," said Nina Kapoor, a UCSD honor student who has spent $375 attending Kyner's sessions this year. "I can say with confidence that the Econ Tutor has helped fill in where UCSD has failed, and I owe a great deal of my success to him." </p>

<p>My daughter is a Junior majoring in Managerial Economics at UCD and has had excellent professors and TA's along with an awesome internship. That is her real experience. She is very pleased with both the acadmeics and social life at UCD.</p>

<p>"This doesn't mean UCSD econ is not well-know or highly ranked. UCSD econ was ranked 10th in the nation in 2005 while UCD was no where to be found in top 25."
^That would be a graduate school ranking.^ </p>

<p>In the link you provided UCD is listed just 4 places beneath UCSD (in good company between UVA and UW) for Economics in the Gourman Report for undergraduate economics. </p>

<p>Gourman Report undergrad economics ranking:</p>

<p>Gourman Report undergrad
MIT
Chicago
Stanford
Princeton
Harvard
Yale
U Minnesota
U Penn
U Wisc Madison
UC Berkeley
Northwestern
U Rochester
Columbia
UCLA
U Michigan Ann Arbor
Johns Hopkins
Carnegie Mellon
Brown
UC San Diego
Duke
Cornell
NYU
UVA
UC Davis
U Washington
U Maryland College Park
Michigan State
UNC Chapel Hill
U Illinois Urbana Champaign
Texas A&M
Boston U
Washington U St Louis
Purdue West Lafayette
USC
U Texas Austin
Vanderbilt
Ohio State
Iowa State
SUNY Stony Brook
U Iowa
U Mass Amherst
UC Santa Barbara
U Pittsburgh
Virginia Tech
Claremont McKenna
Rutgers New Brunswick</p>

<p>From this ranking it would appear that UCB, UCLA, UCSD, UCD and UCSB are all well respected programs.</p>

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<p>You will do fine either way you go. Overall there is small difference in terms of the jobs available to you.</p>