ED Application Percentage Changes at the Top Universities

College Search & Selection
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<p>This is the second year that GW has seen significant increases in it’s ED apps: 43% last year and 24% this year. It’s not just due to the Obama elections since Georgetown has seen no increase.</p>

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<p>i actually don’t see the rise in ED as shocking even with the economy. We are becoming more and more populated as a country and I don’t see new schools at the caliber of the ones mentioned above being opened. These are all schools that have been around for quite a while and the trend should continue. More people = less spaces available. It’s getting harder and harder to get into great colleges these days so kids are applying ED if it’s their first choice school in order to get that extra edge. I imagine that colleges like this as well.</p>

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<p>What a blatant and shameless plug!</p>

<p>The funny thing is that this Ivy reject didn’t even apply ED to Duke! He confessed to being a “developmental admit” at Duke.</p>

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<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/duke-university/802760-dukes-economics-program-strength-etc-2.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/duke-university/802760-dukes-economics-program-strength-etc-2.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>interestingguy – Leaving aside that personal attacks are against [CC</a> Terms of Service](<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/faq.php?faq=vb_faq#faq_new_faq_item]CC”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/faq.php?faq=vb_faq#faq_new_faq_item), I don’t think many would dispute that Duke has become much more popular in the last 10 and especially 20 years.</p>

<p>Good grief. You really do want a damnatio memoriae of Duke on CC, no? Give it a rest.</p>

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<p>Wesleyan and Middlebury both received approximately the same number of ED applications as they did last year (with similar acceptance rates)</p>

<p>(Wesleyan is +10% on RD applications so far compared to last year at this time)</p>

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<p>How exactly is this a “personal attack”?</p>

<p>lesdiablesbleus is both an Ivy reject and a Duke developmental admit.</p>

<p>Or, at least he said as much. I have no reason to assume otherwise.</p>

<p>If you want to witness a true personal attack, here is one for you:</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/1063467249-post20.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/1063467249-post20.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Here’s the cool thing, interestingguy - we really don’t care that lesdiablesblueus is either an Ivy reject or a Duke developmental admit. The topic at hand was the increase in ED at top universities, not particular posters.</p>

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<p>^ Did you and he kiss and make up already?</p>

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<p>There is probably some truth to this.
As the echo boom crests, and the admit rates at a few select schools hover steadily around 10% and below, some parents and mentors must be thinking the game is not worth the candle. Better to focus on top schools that admit students whose scores and rank are just as high, or nearly so, minus the astonishing ECs, hooks, and backstories.</p>

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<p>so here’s the tally so far…</p>

<p>American +40%
Duke: +33%
Chicago +32%
Rice: +26%
George Washington: +24%
Brown +21%
William and Mary: +13%
Grinnell: +10%
Northwestern: +8%
Smith: +6%
Bowdoin: +5%
NYU: +5%
Stanford (SCEA): +4%
Dartmouth: +3%
Pomona: +2%
Tufts: No significant change
Georgetown: No significant change
Amherst: -1%
Middlebury: -1%
Haverford: expecting small decline
Davidson: -4%
Yale (SCEA): -5.2%
Williams: -10%</p>

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<p>NYT article from today on this subject by Jacques Steinberg:
[The</a> Early Line on Early Admission - The Choice Blog - NYTimes.com](<a href=“http://thechoice.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/12/14/early-admission/]The”>The Early Line on Early Admission - The New York Times)</p>

<p>all #'s in the article have already been reported on this thread, although he has a lower number for Midd’s ED1 apps last year, resulting in his calculation of Midd '14 ED1 increasing, rather than my calc (with source numbers recorded straight from Midd’s admit webpage last year & this year) which shows them with fewer apps this year…I’d guess this is Midd manipulating their numbers yet again, as they seem to do year after year, presumably for better PR.</p>

<p>From the article’s comments section:
Penn +6%
Columbia +2%</p>

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<p>Wesleyan -2%
[Wes</a> Maintains Large ED I Applicant Pool ? The Wesleyan Argus](<a href=“http://wesleyanargus.com/2009/12/11/wes-maintains-large-ed-i-applicant-pool/]Wes”>The Wesleyan Argus | Wes Maintains Large ED I Applicant Pool)</p>

<p>Georgetown in greater detail…
EA '14 = 6105 apps source: [Georgetown</a> University: Early Action Numbers Steady in Bad Economy](<a href=“http://explore.georgetown.edu/news/?ID=47317]Georgetown”>http://explore.georgetown.edu/news/?ID=47317)
EA '13 = 6201 apps source: [Georgetown</a> University- Office of Undergraduate Admissions](<a href=“http://www12.georgetown.edu/undergrad/admissions/applying_firstyear_sdprofile.cfm]Georgetown”>http://www12.georgetown.edu/undergrad/admissions/applying_firstyear_sdprofile.cfm)
…therefore…
Georgetown EA: -2% (-1.55 rounded)</p>

<p>Bowdoin ED1 (correction from above) : +3%
source: [Admissions</a> accepts 36% in ED I](<a href=“http://orient.bowdoin.edu/orient/old/article.php?date=2009-12-11&section=1&id=2]Admissions”>http://orient.bowdoin.edu/orient/old/article.php?date=2009-12-11&section=1&id=2)</p>

<p>Whitman: -21%
source: [Early</a> Decision applications decline from last year, still above average » The Pioneer | Whitman news, delivered.](<a href=“http://whitmanpioneer.com/news/2009/12/07/early-decision-applications-down-from-last-year-still-above-average/]Early”>http://whitmanpioneer.com/news/2009/12/07/early-decision-applications-down-from-last-year-still-above-average/)</p>

<p>Penn +6 source: [Penn</a> sees rise in ED applications | The Daily Pennsylvanian](<a href=“http://thedp.com/article/penn-sees-rise-ed-applications]Penn”>http://thedp.com/article/penn-sees-rise-ed-applications)</p>

<p>this article, [url=<a href=“http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/04/AR2009120401781.html]washingtonpost.com[/url”>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/04/AR2009120401781.html]washingtonpost.com[/url</a>] has
American +46% (rather than 40% reported before)
Johns Hopkins +10%</p>

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<p>Pitzer
ED’14: 151 source: 11/25 post [Pitzer</a> College Office of Admission | Facebook](<a href=“Redirecting...”>Pitzer College Office of Admission | Claremont CA)
ED’13: 135 (presumably last year’s numbers) source: [Pitzer</a> College - Admission - First Year Profile](<a href=“http://www.pitzer.edu/admission/why_pitzer/first_year_profile.asp]Pitzer”>http://www.pitzer.edu/admission/why_pitzer/first_year_profile.asp)</p>

<p>calculated change: +12%</p>

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<p>The reason Duke’s numbers have jumped so high is that they’ve had a very small number of people apply ED to Duke traditionally. A 30% increase isn’t too surprising if it means only 100 extra people are applying ED.</p>

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<p>Notre Dame EA: +13.5%
[The</a> Observer](<a href=“http://www.ndsmcobserver.com/mobile/news/early-applicant-pool-larger-of-higher-quality-1.948772]The”>http://www.ndsmcobserver.com/mobile/news/early-applicant-pool-larger-of-higher-quality-1.948772)</p>

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<p>How many early applications do these schools actually get and what percentage actually get in? Can someone please rank all these schools on those two scales so that we can have meaningful information on which schools are truly more difficult to get into and more popular? I posit that the school with the highest number of early apps and lowest percentage accepted is doing the best.</p>

<p>This is the information CCers need to assess how the early season will impact their applications and gives a true picture on how this early apps process works.
If would also be interesting to know what percentage of the class is filled from early applications as well.</p>

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<p>Midd’s admit Web page is not intended to be a final, complete source for numbers related to admissions. It’s intended to provide admitted first year students with some telling and fun preliminary numbers relating to their class and classmates. The college’s common data set represents finalized, internally audited numbers. There likely are some kids who apply early decision, then, due to financial or personal reasons, back out and place themselves into the RD pool after decisions have been announced.</p>

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<p>Following on to post 56, it is a lot more impressivef or a school to have say 5000 total applications and a 20% admit rate than it is to have say 3500 applications with a 40% admit rate, even thought he the 3500 might be up from 2800 applications the year before.</p>

<p>Lots of these EA percentage incresease are against a surprisingly small base.</p>

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<p>Duke ED applications: ~2,000 (this year)</p>

<p>Duke ED acceptance rate: ~35% (overall); ~60%!!! (legacy)</p>

<p>While both Duke and Chicago have similar early application percentage changes this year, Chicago’s is much more impressive because it is NON-binding early ACTION.</p>

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<p>Vanderbilt’s was up 20%</p>