ED: Brown or Duke for IBanking?

<p>Hi, I'm trying to decide which uni to apply ED to this year, and intend to get into ibanking/s&t/financial svcs after college. I'd like to be on Wall St. for a while.</p>

<p>Would you recommend Brown or Duke for a career in finance? Which gives better skills training? What do recruiters and bulge bracket banks prefer? Which has a stronger alumni network in finance?</p>

<p>Side question: How much does ED really help when applying to these 2 schools - have they been known to favor ED applicants more just because of greater interest shown? I've always believed the higher admissions rate for ED as opposed to RD is due to the strength of the ED applicants.</p>

<p>Wherever you apply Ed, your chance is higher. I would recommend Duke because it has a strong Econ department compared to brown. If you can, visit both the schools during the summer and see which school you are getting a better vibe from</p>

<p>Duke does have better placement. But please just don’t pick a college for that. If you do well at Brown, you’ll still get plenty of offers. Choose based on fit. That is much more important, since your college performance will matter a lot.</p>

<p>I wouldn’t base your college decision solely based on career choices. If you have visited both and really can’t decide which would be a better “fit” for you than I would give the nod towards to Duke, but at the end of the day it doesn’t really matter.</p>

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<p>The higher acceptance rate under the ED programs is due to recruited athletes, legacies, and obviously the smaller applicant pool.</p>

<p>I’m obviously a little biased, but:

  • Duke’s most popular major is econ, and you can add a finance concentration to it as well.
  • Duke seems to always be in the top tier as a target, or the second tier if you put HWP at the top. Brown is typically the tier under Duke.
  • Duke’s alumni organization has 140k people, Brown’s has 86k. While I don’t know too much about what they all do, the extra tens of thousands of people surely can’t hurt.</p>

<p>I don’t know anything about Brown’s ED, but I know that this year, Duke admitted to putting tons of qualified candidates on the waitlist because they had too many applications to look at in too short of a time. Applying early would obviously get you out of that mess.</p>

<p>But as it’s been said, fit really does matter. You should go where you’ll end up shining the most. Or just come to Duke. </p>

<p>(And wow. Penn, Stanford, and Dartmouth '15. Impressive.)</p>

<p>Hands down Duke in terms of IB, etc opportunities post u grad. That said, you shouldn’t solely base your decision on that.</p>

<p>If all else is equal or you are indifferent, then for the career you want, go to Duke.</p>

<p>IBanker</p>

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<p>I personally think Penn 15 is the best. Remove a “n” and you’ll see what I’m talking about.
Also don’t forget Duke '15. :)</p>

<p>Ah yes, the elusive Pen15 club ([xkcd:</a> Mark](<a href=“http://xkcd.com/842/]xkcd:”>xkcd: Mark)).</p>

<p>And thanks. We’re all going to some pretty sweet schools. :D</p>

<p>Duke is better for IB</p>

<p>They are pretty much on the same tier for IB recruiting.
But loved the Penn pun</p>

<p>I would ED at Duke because of the same reasons that Columbia mentioned. Have you also given Dartmouth some thought. If you don’t mind the extreme isolation it is a fine school.</p>

<p>Don’t make your school decision based on recruiting. Both schools are basically equal and if you do good at either, the name of each will get your foot in the door. Your school name will only get your app looked at and the type of person you are will decide if you will get an offer or not. Pick the place you’ll enjoy the most and where you think you’ll be most successful at.</p>

<p>They’re the same. there are more Duke grads that are attracted in joining in ibanking though than there are Brown grads. but the opportunities would be the same for grads from both schools.</p>

<p>They’re the same. If a Duke student and a Brown student both had the same exact stats and insternship experience, the Brown (univ) kid will get the job as Brown is more prestigious on Wall Street. Brown would be in a higher tier than Duke but kids there aren’t really interested in Banking and mostly go hippie out in San Fran for a little while.</p>

<p>Duke. </p>

<p>A lot of banks assume that Brown kids don’t want banking, so they have marginally fewer recruiters that visit on campus. It’s really not a matter of the school being unsuitable – recruiters just recognize that, on a per dollar basis, recruiting at Duke will yield more resumes and interest than it will at Brown. </p>

<p>So, to answer your question in a broader context, you’ll want to pick schools with students that fulfill that self-selection element: pre-professional, elite target schools. Duke fits that criteria.</p>

<p>No bias here, but Northwestern would be a good replacement for Brown.</p>

<p>^Brown-Target
Northwestern-Semi-Target
Northwestern and Brown are on TOTALLY different tiers and Brown is above NU</p>

<p>Brown is a semi-target. You have a few BBs that recruit there (GS, BOA, etc) but almost no middle-market or boutiques. The bulges feel required to recruit there due to its Ivy reputation, but other banks recognize that most Brown kids go to grad school or into nonprofit or Brooklyn to be artists. Significantly fewer options there…making the few jobs that are available way more competitive. You’ll want to keep your options as open as possible by having a good mix of BBs and elite boutiques/MMs from which to choose. </p>

<p>Northwestern on the other hand has every BB on the Street, in addition to several regional and national boutiques and MMs. There’s the requisite recruiting from Chicago offices, obviously, but there’s also fabulous representation from both of the coasts as well if you want that. Consulting recruiting is even stronger should you want to diversify your job search.</p>

<p>NU is ranked higher than Brown, has a top business school (from which you can earn a finance certificate to put you ahead in recruiting), better Econ program, Chicago for internships, is less pretentious and generally more aligned with the typical banker’s personality. Brown is an excellent school, and is, in the eyes of recruiters, in the same awkward space between target and semi-target as NU – NU just has more resources to help the average prospective banker.</p>

<p>I also agree with jayfromla. NU would be a great alternative to both Duke and Brown. And so are UVa (McIntire), Georgetown and Washington-Olin.</p>

<p>top BB s&t summer analysts 2011:</p>

<ol>
<li>UPenn (11)</li>
<li>Columbia/Princeton (7)</li>
<li>Brown (6)</li>
<li>Yale (5)</li>
<li>Dartmouth/Duke/Michigan/Stanford (4)</li>
<li>Cornell/Harvard/MIT/UVA (3)</li>
</ol>

<p>I would say Duke in general but the difference is pretty marginal</p>