<p>Isn't it just a known fact that ED does improve chances.. Otherwise why would Early decision even exist.. </p>
<p>ED is meant to be good for both the schools and their ED applicants... If you love them, they'll love you kinda thing.
Of course chances are higher.. admission statistics show it!
Less people apply ED, and a greater percentage get accepted from the ED pool! </p>
<p>so canuckeh: what is it that you figured out.. care to share with me how to play the game right since you're an expert at it now?</p>
<p>Last time U'll say this, but many top schools, on their web sites, explain they do not give an ED advantage. The ED pool is comprosed of many "special" candidates on many levels. Believe what you want and best of luck. Those of you with average stats and below 1500 SATS applying to ivies, please tell the truth when the slim envelopes arrive.</p>
<p>Silver, in my case, becoming exceptional meant gaing exceptional credentials in my passion category. I sought out scientists involved in research of interest around the world, got to participate, worked my butt off 40 hours/wk. while taking a full college load, published, got profs at the schools I wanted interested, and they went to bat for me.</p>
<p>Although I too believe that ED does give an advantage at most schools, some schools like UVa maintain that there ED admissions rate is 40% and RD is 40% this way its makes no difference whether you decide to go ED or RD.</p>
<p>Again, how do you explain the info below? A delusion?</p>
<p>Many students and parents want to know whether it makes a difference if they apply as an early decision (ED binding) or early action (EA non-binding) candidate. The answer is, "Yes, sometimes." The following data was provided by Cigus Vanni, Counselor at Cherry Hill (NJ) High School and has been taken primarily from The College Handbook 2003, published by The College Board. Its compilation was assisted by e-mails to individual admissions offices; by access to individual college websites; and in one case through a personal telephone call. </p>
<p>The data below is presented in descending rank order of the ratio between admit rate in EA/ED admissions versus that of "regular" admissions. Schools at the top of the list thus have the widest differential.</p>
<p>Institution State Plan Admitted Early % Admitted Regular % Ratio % Greater Chance
US Coast Guard Academy CT E Action 59 7 8.4 743%
Columbia Univ-Arts/Sciences NY E Decision 32 12 2.7 167%
Princeton University NJ E Decision 31 12 2.6 158%
Amherst College MA E Decision 41 19 2.2 116%
Oberlin College OH E Decision 75 36 2.1 108%
Yale University CT E Decision 29 14 2.1 107%
Columbia University-Engineer NY E Decision 53 26 2.0 104%
Flagler College FL E Decision 57 28 2.0 104%
Carleton College MN E Decision 74 37 2.0 100%
Tufts University MA E Decision 45 23 2.0 96%
Swarthmore College PA E Decision 50 26 1.9 92%
Stanford University CA E Decision 24 13 1.8 85%
Trinity College CT E Decision 55 30 1.8 83%
Davidson College NC E Decision 63 35 1.8 80%
Brown University RI E Decision 21 12 1.8 75%
Muhlenberg College PA E Decision 61 35 1.7 74%
Washington and Lee U VA E Decision 61 35 1.7 74%
Harvard University MA E Action 19 11 1.7 73%
Whitman College WA E Decision 92 54 1.7 70%
Cooper Union NY E Decision 22 13 1.7 69%
Union College NY E Decision 69 41 1.7 68%
University of Pennsylvania PA E Decision 36 22 1.6 64%
College of the Holy Cross MA E Decision 70 43 1.6 63%
Williams College MA E Decision 39 24 1.6 63%
Connecticut College CT E Decision 55 34 1.6 62%
Vassar College NY E Decision 55 34 1.6 62%
Lehigh University PA E Decision 76 47 1.6 62%
Colgate University NY E Decision 59 37 1.6 59%
Mount Holyoke College MA E Decision 78 49 1.6 59%
Johns Hopkins University MD E Decision 54 34 1.6 59%
University of Notre Dame IN E Action 57 36 1.6 58%
Northwestern University IL E Decision 53 34 1.6 56%
Cornell University NY E Decision 42 27 1.6 56%
University of Florida FL E Decision 92 60 1.5 53%
Lafayette College PA E Decision 59 39 1.5 51%
University of Miami FL E Decision 69 46 1.5 50%
Emory University GA E Decision 64 43 1.5 49%
Bates College ME E Decision 49 33 1.5 48%
Bard College NY E Action 65 44 1.5 48%
Bentley College MA Both EA/ED 56 38 1.5 47%
Harvey Mudd College CA E Action 50 34 1.5 47%
Duke University NC E Decision 38 26 1.5 46%
College of William and Mary VA E Decision 54 37 1.5 46%
Haverford College PA E Decision 48 33 1.5 45%
Gettysburg College PA E Decision 77 53 1.5 45%
Dartmouth College NH E Decision 33 23 1.4 43%
Hamilton College NY E Decision 50 35 1.4 43%
Webb Institute NY E Decision 67 47 1.4 43%
Barnard College NY E Decision 47 33 1.4 42%
Wesleyan University CT E Decision 37 26 1.4 42%
Bennington College VT E Decision 88 63 1.4 40%
Hampshire College MA Both EA/ED 81 59 1.4 37%
Bowdoin College ME E Decision 32 24 1.3 33%
California Inst Tech CA E Action 20 15 1.3 33%
Skidmore College NY E Decision 56 42 1.3 33%
Denison University OH E Decision 77 58 1.3 33%
Middlebury College VT E Decision 33 25 1.3 32%
Brandeis University MA E Decision 54 41 1.3 32%
Babson College MA Both EA/ED 46 35 1.3 31%
Lawrence University WI Both EA/ED 89 68 1.3 31%
Wellesley College MA E Decision 56 43 1.3 30%
Sarah Lawrence College NY E Decision 48 37 1.3 30%
Colby College ME E Decision 44 34 1.3 29%
Goucher College MD Both EA/ED 93 73 1.3 27%
George Washington U DC E Decision 61 48 1.3 27%
Kenyon College OH E Decision 83 66 1.3 26%
Franklin & Marshall College PA E Decision 69 55 1.3 25%
Hobart & William Smith NY E Decision 86 69 1.2 25%
Furman University SC E Action 76 61 1.2 25%
Pomona College CA E Decision 36 29 1.2 24%
Smith College MA E Decision 67 54 1.2 24%
Lewis and Clark College OR E Action 83 67 1.2 24%
University of Chicago IL E Action 54 44 1.2 23%
Washington University MO E Decision 28 23 1.2 22%
Wheaton College MA E Decision 74 61 1.2 21%
Boston College MA E Action 41 34 1.2 21%
Bucknell University PA E Decision 47 39 1.2 21%
Lake Forest College IL Both EA/ED 83 69 1.2 20%
University of Maryland MD E Action 66 55 1.2 20%
Wake Forest University NC E Decision 55 46 1.2 20%
Carnegie Mellon PA E Decision 37 31 1.2 19%
Rhodes College TN E Decision 83 70 1.2 19%
New York University NY E Decision 33 28 1.2 18%
University of North Carolina NC E Action 47 40 1.2 18%
Rollins College FL E Decision 76 65 1.2 17%
Fairfield University CT E Decision 57 49 1.2 16%
Virginia Military Institute VA E Decision 73 63 1.2 16%
Elon University NC E Decision 75 65 1.2 15%
Southwestern University TX E Decision 68 59 1.2 15%
Trinity University TX E Decision 86 75 1.1 15%
Providence College RI E Action 65 57 1.1 14%
University of Richmond VA E Decision 50 44 1.1 14%
Hood College MD E Action 84 74 1.1 14%
Worcester Polytechnic Inst MA E Decision 88 78 1.1 13%
Clark University MA E Decision 76 68 1.1 12%
Rensselaer Polytechnic Ins NY E Decision 76 68 1.1 12%
Kalamazoo College MI Both EA/ED 87 78 1.1 12%
Allegheny College PA E Decision 88 79 1.1 11%
Mary Washington College VA E Decision 62 56 1.1 11%
University of Virginia VA E Decision 42 38 1.1 11%
Macalester College MN E Decision 55 50 1.1 10%
Knox College IL E Action 79 72 1.1 10%
Syracuse University NY E Decision 70 64 1.1 9%
American University DC E Decision 74 68 1.1 9%
Wheaton College IL E Action 62 57 1.1 9%
Bryn Mawr College PA E Decision 65 60 1.1 8%
Stetson University FL E Decision 86 80 1.1 8%
University of Vermont VT Both EA/ED 86 80 1.1 8%
Reed College OR E Decision 76 71 1.1 7%
Vanderbilt University TN E Decision 49 46 1.1 7%
Stevens Institute of Tech NJ E Decision 51 48 1.1 6%
University of Rochester NY E Decision 52 49 1.1 6%
Georgetown University DC E Action 22 21 1.0 5%
Scripps College CA E Decision 67 64 1.0 5%
Grinnell College IA E Decision 68 65 1.0 5%
Rice University TX Both EA/ED 24 23 1.0 4%
Emerson College MA E Action 49 47 1.0 4%
College of Wooster OH E Decision 75 72 1.0 4%
Agnes Scott College GA E Decision 77 74 1.0 4%
Case Western Reserve U OH E Decision 77 74 1.0 4%
Earlham College IN Both EA/ED 83 80 1.0 4%
Dickinson College PA Both EA/ED 66 64 1.0 3%
The College of New Jersey NJ E Decision 52 51 1.0 2%
Catholic Univ of America DC E Decision 86 85 1.0 1%
Massachusetts Inst Tech MA E Action 17 17 1.0<br>
Miami University of Ohio OH Both EA/ED 73 74 1.0<br>
Salisbury University MD E Decision 51 52 1.0<br>
Cal Poly at San Luis Obispo CA E Decision 46 47 1.0<br>
Colorado College CO E Action 66 69 1.0<br>
Wofford College SC E Action 78 82 1.0<br>
St. Mary's Col of Maryland MD E Decision 70 74 0.9<br>
Ithaca College NY E Decision 62 66 0.9<br>
School of Visual Arts NY E Decision 58 62 0.9<br>
University of Delaware DE E Decision 49 53 0.9<br>
Mount St. Mary's College MD E Action 73 79 0.9<br>
Marist College NY E Action 48 52 0.9<br>
Fordham University NY E Decision 50 55 0.9<br>
Rochester Inst of Technology NY E Decision 63 70 0.9<br>
Claremont-McKenna College CA E Action 24 28 0.9<br>
Spelman College GA E Action 42 49 0.9<br>
College of Santa Fe NM E Decision 65 76 0.9<br>
North Carolina State NC E Action 56 66 0.8<br>
Elmira College NY E Decision 67 80 0.8<br>
Birmingham-Southern Coll AL E Action 77 92 0.8<br>
Pitzer College CA E Action 43 54 0.8<br>
Adelphi University NY E Action 52 68 0.8<br>
University of San Francisco CA E Action 56 79 0.7<br>
James Madison University VA E Action 44 64 0.7<br>
Virginia Tech VA E Decision 48 70 0.7<br>
Chapman University CA E Action 49 77 0.6<br>
Boston University MA E Decision 21 48 0.4<br>
St. Mary's Coll of California CA E Action 32 77 0.4 </p>
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<p>Again, you have no SPECIFIC sources. And, still no answers. Wow. BTW, you just need to explain the better ones.</p>
<p>Ok here's my take on this, Early Decision does give an advantage, but very slight, to the regular applicant pool. By the way, I live in Princeton, and my father is friends with a professor at Princeton, they usually dont look much under 1500 mark for regular decision.</p>
<p>Canuckeh is someone correct in his observations that minorities, athletes, and legacy applicants have a great shot with ED. However, ED is also a place for a weaker applicants for regular decision that may apply early for a better chance. The applicant pool with ED is lower, the people who "ABSOLUTELY KNOW" they are going to get into a school (I.E. someone knows they are getting into carnegie mellon, because that's their safety) won't apply Early, they'll apply early to other and better schools. In the case with the top 5-10 universities, Early Decision has a very minimal percentage increase (a few percentages at most).</p>
<p>What I'm saying is, if your a borderline case to a school (Meaning you fulfill everything, but at the minimum level)...I.E. the average SAT is 1320-1580, and you are 1330...average HS GPA is 3.7 and you are a 3.65, that if you apply ED it will definitely be in your favor to do so. Most people who apply ED are the ones who absolutely KNOW they are getting in there, or they apply to a very VERY slight reach school and know their chances of getting in will improve ED vs Regular.</p>
<p>hmm.. i don't think anyone applying to an ivy league EA or ED "KNOW" they are getting in there...</p>
<p>they may have a great chance etc... but it's a crapshoot.. even for the perfect score geniuses.. i'm sure each year "perfect" students get rejected from top schools even if they applied early..</p>
<p>How do you explain the stats away as insignificant (in my post above)? And, when some very selective schools take 30-40% of their class from the ED/SCEA pool? How is applying early only helpful to lower 25%ile applicants, and not more "solid" ones? As for a tip factor, you need more than just test scores and grades, before you can be a strong candidate for an highly selective school. </p>
<p>Also, if you would not mind, besides the Princeton professor, what other sources do you have to support your opinion. I, myself, applied ED to a selective school with some ECs that showed, I believe, depth, commitment, and leadership--but nothing like those who do research, are published, etc...In your opininon, do you think ED was a mistake, since there is no advantage to applying ED/EA?</p>
<p>I am an international student from Korea and I was just curious whether I will stand minority in Emory during EDII. english is second language..dunno if it matters tho..
I am an athlete as well. I already have been contacted with coach and he promised me that he will recommend me as among top 3 in the track&field
I heard Emory likes people to have a campus tour, so I am planning to visit them pretty soon too.
I have decent SAT 1310 and SATII (dunno yet but hopin to be good)
but only problem is my freckin GPA.
My weighted GPA is lower than 3.0 and I know it will kill me but oh well hopefully other catogories will help me.(dun forget that english is my second language=)</p>
<p>well 1% of the gpas at emory are below 3.0, 99% above. you are screwed over unless you are the best athlete in the world in your sport or you and the dean of admissions are buddy buddy or he happens to be your dad</p>
<p>ehh.. I asked a Williams College officer whether applying Early would be an advantage.. as expected, she said no, and I took it with grain of salt. Why? cuz it makes sense... the admission officers will be fresh, eager to admit students, and they will be less stressed. Also, having binding contracts must be plus....</p>
<p>Williams, Amherst, and Middlebury say that EDing will not help, but the average stats of those admitted early are lower than the RD pool, and the ED rates are almost twice the RD percentages accepted. Search for The Common Data Set at each college and you'll see. Bowdoin, btw, says that there is an advantage to applying ED or ED II...I like that they are relatively transparent.</p>
<p>GPA 3.53 weighted
SAT 1340
Rank 81/453
White Male
UVA Legacy
In-State, Hampton Roads
Taken 6 APs - AP Euro, AP Pysch, AP US,
AP Environmental, AP Calc AB, AP Government </p>
<p>EC's - SCA Exec Board, CLass of 2005 Exec Board, Varsity Baseball, Spanish Honor Society Treasurer, Mu Alpha Theta Exec Board, Young Life, The Gathering, young democrats, WorldQuest, SCA General Assembly, Key Club
Held Full-Time job this past summer</p>
<p>Honors - Baseball Player of the Year - 2003
Selected for Johns Hopkins Gifted and Talented Program</p>
<p>Applied EA to JMU
Applying RD to UVA, Tech, George Mason, UNCW, Christopher Newport</p>
<p>Please tell me my chances at each, and your reasoning. Thanks.</p>
<p>George Mason: Most likely yes
CNU: most likely yes
Tech: maybe
UVA: if you can't get JMU early, no way for UVA, and if you do, slight chance
JMU: pretty good chance</p>
<p>i think overall it depends on what school you apply early...for ivies like penn and cornell it's definitely easier early decision because for RD you are competing with people who are also applying to harvard, yale, MIT, etc</p>