ED II- significantly fewer admission

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<p>You could post your ECs, but I personally probably won't be of much help. B/c of the area I come from lacking much opportunity, my ECs were near nonexistent. I relied almost completely on good SAT/ACT scores (1550/35, took each test once). The fact that everything else checks out, I'd say you have a very good shot, though top 20 schools are always shrouded in mystery.</p>

<p>Essays are another big part, too. I've talked to many people with 30+ ACT scores who write like 7th graders and it's bound to hurt them.</p>

<p>With your stats, you'd have to have some minor screw-up to get rejected (boring essay, etc.)</p>

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<p>Yea, I think my SATs are pretty solid (1430), but my GPA definitely brings me down. HOpefully my extra currics, recommendations and minority status helps...</p>

<p>And to JD, don't worry man, I'm on this Emory forum daily just as you are. So dont think you're overstressing, its natural. But all we can do at this point is just hope for the best... Best case scenario is we both get in, that would be sick. Regardless, even if you just got in I'd be really happy for you, cause just from these posts I can tell you REALLY want to go. I hate the idea that someone else is at my dream school and they dont even want to be there...</p>

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<p>haha what a reflective thread this has turned out to be! I'm here everyday too, HCnJ, checking to see if there's any new news and such.</p>

<p>only a few more weeks!</p>

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<p>thanks HotChillyNJazzy....i'm glad that i'm able to share the times with others in the same position. i think we will get in to be honest. i don't eve know much about you, but it seems that kids like you (us) who actually care this much get the better end of the deal</p>

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<p>haha, I fifth that motion of being on here every day. it seems to take my mind off of the more important things that I should actually be doing. =) and scholars stuff comes out soon so I'm on my toes and trying not to think about it! good luck to both of you and we may meet at school next year :)</p>

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<p>ya good luck to you too!</p>

<p>i'm so high strung lately because I have midterms next week and have to do well on a couple midterms because I have split grades A B. in other words, the stress is on because if i I don't do well then the grades are sent out to RD schools and that will matter if I don't get into Emory. if I do, then life is good.</p>

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<p>I did scholars so my grades this year don't affect my scholars chances...which I'm not sure is on my side or not, haha. But yeah,I still have to try hard in case I don't mke semifinalist, cause they'll review my app again and see those grades. good luck to youuu; don't die before you see the light :)</p>

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<p>Haha so just so I know, the people who applied ED II here are Myself, JD, and Julien?</p>

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<p>so is there a final verdict on the ED II probable numbers....are the odds really this low?</p>

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<p>Naw JD, I'm choosing to believe what I read in this thread <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/emory-university/434972-ed-ii-v-s-regular.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/emory-university/434972-ed-ii-v-s-regular.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Someone made a post where they mentioned the numbers Princeton Review gave, so I figure thats a bit more reliable than anything we've calculated</p>

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<p>"Haha so just so I know, the people who applied ED II here are Myself, JD, and Julien?"
that's seems about right. how about azn; I know you're doing scholars but are you also EDII?</p>

<p>oh, and I'm sure there are plenty of lurkers out there too :P</p>

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<p>well, i'll go check that threat out guys..good luck coping to all you ED IIers hotchillynjazzy and julienf</p>

<p>see you in the ED II Results thread i'll start like 2 days before!</p>

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<p>haha I was like "threat?" where threat? and then I was like ohh...prolly THREAD! i = retarted.</p>

<p>nah, I'm not doing EDII just cause I wasn't ever really sure where I wanted to go. and even now, it really depends on whether or not I get money and how much (and if I actually get in, since I applied RD!) though Emory's definitely my top choice. :)</p>

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<p>ah, I see. well, anyway, good luck to everyone!</p>

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<p>The OP raises some interesting questions about the value of applying ED II versus ED I, or even the value of applying ED at all.</p>

<p>It has traditionally been assumed that there is some benefit to applying ED to a school. If a student has the proper profile and they are willing to commit to a school by applying ED, then the student has often been rewarded by the school . This has been supported by schools having higher acceptance rates for ED applicants than RD applicants. </p>

<p>However, after examining the trends at Emory over the past 5 years, these traditional assumptions may no longer be valid. With the demographic trend of an ever increasing number of high school graduates applying to a greater number of colleges, the competition for slots is keen. Many try the ED approach to gain an edge. Does it help?</p>

<p>Below are 6 years worth of admissions data for Emory. All but the Class of ’11 data is taken from the Common Data Set. The current class information is taken from the Emory website and the Emory Wheel article from 2/2/07 cited in Post #6 above.</p>

<pre><code> Applicants Accepts Rate Enroll Yield
</code></pre>

<p>Class '06 9,789 4,142 42% 1,337 32%
Class '07 10,372 4,357 42% 1,296 30%
Class '08 11,218 4,330 39% 1,276 29%
Class '09 12,011 4,395 37% 1,259 29%
Class '10 14,222 4,535 32% 1,340 30%
Class '11 15,336 4,176 27% 1,269 30%</p>

<p>5 YR Chng 57% 1% -5% </p>

<p>Over the past 5 years, the number of applications has increased by 57% while the number of students accepted has only risen by 1%. This has caused the overall acceptance rate to drop from 42% to 27%. Actual enrollment has dropped.</p>

<p>Now let’s look at the ED Data:</p>

<pre><code> Early Decision Results 

 ED Apps ED Accpts ED Rate  RD Rate          ED % Class

</code></pre>

<p>Class '06 864 530 61% 40% 40%
Class '07 735 452 61% 41% 35%
Class '08 858 514 60% 37% 40%
Class '09 1026 533 52% 35% 42%
Class '10 1434 488 34% 32% 36%
Class '11 1588 432 27% 27% 34%</p>

<p>5 YR Chng 84% -18% </p>

<p>Over the past 5 years the number of ED applicants has increased 84% while the number of ED acceptances has dropped by 18%. The ED acceptance rate has fallen from 61% to 27%. While the Class of ’06 ED applicants were accepted at a 50% higher rate than RD applicants (61% ED v. 40% RD), the Class of ’11 ED applicants fared no better than those applying RD (27% v. 27%). Additionally, the percent of the class filled by ED has dropped from 40% to 34%.</p>

<p>In earlier posts there was some discussion about an ED I acceptance rate of 43% last year, which implies an ED II acceptance rate of only 8%. This suggests that there was a significant difference in the quality of the 2 applicant pools, or perhaps that the admissions committee decided after ED I that they wanted to limit the number of ED acceptances because they wanted to shrink the entire class (Total acceptances fell 359 even though total applications rose by 1,114). </p>

<p>What is clear is that over the past 5 years the value of applying ED to Emory has disappeared.</p>

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<p>Impressive calculations!
I wonder why they wouldn't leave a decent percentage for the ED 2, right?</p>

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<p>not really sure what point ACT4 made there in his post..ya we already know that its getting harder at these schools which explains the fact that the ED rates have gone down, but the RD rates have gone down too..emory claims that statistically ED gives you better chances..we just want to know if they are so very low for ED II.</p>

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<p>I suppose the point is that ED doesn't yield as high an advantage as it did in the past, so these 8% calculations for EDII are irrelevant because basically, if you're qualified, Emory will take you (most likely), but if you're borderline, you're more likely (RD as well as ED) to be rejected.</p>

<p>on a side note, the caliber of Emory students has risen as well (statistically) because I have a friend who enrolled 5 years ago as an emory scholar student who recieved 2/3 tuition despite the fact that her SAT score was in the 1350ish range. she had good GPA, strong EC's, etc. but based on last year's scholars on CC, if you have that SAT, you're almost sure not to qualify.</p>

<p>I'm hoping that's not true though because of friend of mine has that score and I really want her to go to emory (which is contingent upon reciving money, since several instates have offered her full ride to play soccer for them); the soccer thing would be her hook...she's already buddybuddy with the emory soccer team.</p>

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<p>Yea, I don't see the pont of ACT 4's post either. If you're saying that applying ED doesn't help, then I hate to say it, but you're wrong. It says on their website that applying ED has a statistical advantage, can't are argue with that. I definitely realize that its gotten ridiculously hard to get into these schools, but applying ED is your best chance.</p>

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<p>yes, I agree with HotChillyNJazzy because statistically your shots are better at Emory through early decision.</p>

<p>ACT4: if you can do your impressive calculations to show us if our chances are actually very very small as we are seeing in this post, then PLEASE go ahead and do so.</p>

<p>but this thread is only about whether or not there is that small a percentage for ED II accepted.</p>